Sunday Morning NOMference!!

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Mormorrisey » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:11 am

MoPag wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:09 am
-10 for poverty shaming
Agreed. Old white dudes of privilege have no clue about generational poverty and its effects. It's not that simple, buddy.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:11 am

...and NONE of them are open.

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:12 am

18? really?
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:12 am

The endowment ceremony that was so important to restore has been changed again and again...penalties anyone?

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by AdmiralHoldo » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:13 am

"Christ takes the slums out of the people and they take themselves out of the slums" is an absolutely DISGUSTING idea once you dig a little deeper into it. Is he saying that poor people don't have a testimony of Christ? Is he saying that poor people are poor BECAUSE they don't have a testimony of Christ?

My husband and I did everything the church asked, served callings, fed the missionaries, PAID TITHING, and yet we have been through no fewer than TEN periods of unemployment in 19 years of marriage, lasting anywhere from two to six months, no matter how hard we prayed and fasted. Bednar and the Prosperity Gospel can go take a flying leap.

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:13 am

and today...none of them are operating..

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:15 am

I really don't get temple work. Some people find it so uplifting. I always had to fight not to sleep. It felt like such a big waste of time.

I always felt there was some value to meditation in the celestial room, but you're not allowed to just go and meditate/pray so that was a moot point.

Anyone? Why do so many people enjoy going to such a boring, monotonous, cringy, and seemingly useless ceremony?
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:16 am

What's wrong with his voice?
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:16 am

AdmiralHoldo wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:13 am
"Christ takes the slums out of the people and they take themselves out of the slums" is an absolutely DISGUSTING idea once you dig a little deeper into it. Is he saying that poor people don't have a testimony of Christ? Is he saying that poor people are poor BECAUSE they don't have a testimony of Christ?

My husband and I did everything the church asked, served callings, fed the missionaries, PAID TITHING, and yet we have been through no fewer than TEN periods of unemployment in 19 years of marriage, lasting anywhere from two to six months, no matter how hard we prayed and fasted. Bednar and the Prosperity Gospel can go take a flying leap.
Agreed!

-20 for prosperty gospel.
-5 for another "both sides of the veil"
Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Mormorrisey » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:16 am

græy wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:15 am
I really don't get temple work. Some people find it so uplifting. I always had to fight not to sleep. It felt like such a big waste of time.

I always felt there was some value to meditation in the celestial room, but you're not allowed to just go and meditate/pray so that was a moot point.

Anyone? Why do so many people enjoy going to such a boring, monotonous, cringy, and seemingly useless ceremony?
It was a place I could go to escape ward members when I was a bishop. The one place they couldn't bug me, so I went once a week. I just sat and thought about my own problems, and didn't pay attention. I find peace in a lot of different activities now, so I don't have much use for it.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by moksha » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:17 am

It sounds like he is losing his voice.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by nibbler » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:18 am

I took his quavering voice as holding back tears.
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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:18 am

moksha wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:17 am
It sounds like he is losing his voice.
Is that a COVID symptom? :lol:

I kid.
Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:19 am

græy wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:18 am
moksha wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:17 am
It sounds like he is losing his voice.
Is that a COVID symptom? :lol:

I kid.
I was about to say the same thing.
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:20 am

Oh no! DW expects our whole family to do this Hosanna Shout thing. *shudder*

I think I feel an extended bathroom break coming on...
Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by Mormorrisey » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:21 am

græy wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:20 am
Oh no! DW expects our whole family to do this Hosanna Shout thing. *shudder*

I think I feel an extended bathroom break coming on...
I used mine for Bednar - sounds like I didn't miss much.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:24 am

græy wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:20 am
Oh no! DW expects our whole family to do this Hosanna Shout thing. *shudder*

I think I feel an extended bathroom break coming on...
let the whole family see how weird the temple really is...lol

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by MoPag » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:24 am

Rusty...
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by græy » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:25 am

Mr Burns' turn!
Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack

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Re: Sunday Morning NOMference!!

Post by nibbler » Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:25 am

græy wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:25 am
Mr Burns' turn!
Excellent.
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