NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:22 am

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by alas » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:23 am

alas wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:21 am
MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:17 am
She's giving a nice Christ centered talk. +5
Well, until it turned into “covenant path” bla bla bla.
But still a good talk so I am not going to ding her on covenant path stuff, so she still gets plus 5.

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by blazerb » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:30 am

I just want to remind him that the revealed name of the church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. However, this name is owned by the Strangites, if I understand correctly.

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by Linked » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:31 am

Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon Mormon etc...
"I would write about life. Every person would be exactly as important as any other. All facts would also be given equal weightiness. Nothing would be left out. Let others bring order to chaos. I would bring chaos to order" - Kurt Vonnegut

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by græy » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:32 am

Heavy focus on a dumb hill to die on regarding the "proper name of the church". Also, little helpful/useful/uplifting information.

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Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:33 am

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by alas » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:33 am

When you have to explain that you really mean “Mormon” it kind of kills the whole idea that they are going to be SOOOO impressed by the idea of Church of Jesus Christ. -10

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by alas » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:34 am

Yuck. Minus 10 for Cook’s history of corruption.

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by blazerb » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:36 am

MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:33 am
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I cannot help but see a manipulative, cynical man when he speaks. Such an ass.

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:41 am

blazerb wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:36 am
MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:33 am
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I cannot help but see a manipulative, cynical man when he speaks. Such an ass.
He's slimy.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by blazerb » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:45 am

Promoting toxic positivity. -20

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:47 am

MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:41 am
blazerb wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:36 am
MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:33 am
Youreacrook.png
I cannot help but see a manipulative, cynical man when he speaks. Such an ass.
He's slimy.
When I hear him speak I can just imagine Jesus saying "keep my name out of your mouth you blind fool!

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by alas » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:47 am

blazerb wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:45 am
Promoting toxic positivity. -20
And I was wondering why what sounded uplifting was turning my stomach. Yeah, you named it. Toxic positivity. Give the crook another -20.

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:49 am

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:49 am

lostinmiddlemormonism wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:47 am
MoPag wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:41 am
blazerb wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:36 am


I cannot help but see a manipulative, cynical man when he speaks. Such an ass.
He's slimy.
When I hear him speak I can just imagine Jesus saying "keep my name out of your mouth you blind fool!
:lol: :lol:
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by moksha » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:51 am

20/20 spiritual vision with Tim Ballard.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
-- Moksha

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by blazerb » Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:53 am

alas wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:47 am
blazerb wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:45 am
Promoting toxic positivity. -20
And I was wondering why what sounded uplifting was turning my stomach. Yeah, you named it. Toxic positivity. Give the crook another -20.
I do like hearing people share stories of enduring real trials. Listening to this talk reminds me of someone who compared two books by C.S. Lewis: The Problem of Pain and A Grief Observed. The Problem of Pain feels so shallow when compared to the real suffering documented in A Grief Observed. I felt like this talk if more of The Problem of Pain. It dismisses pain as merely a temporary state ignoring the reality of pain as it is felt.

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by lostinmiddlemormonism » Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:01 am

I like the idea of welcoming, but home is not always to the Mormon church. Because the church and God are not synonymous.

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by MoPag » Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:03 am

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Re: NOMference Sunday morning Fall 2023

Post by moksha » Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:04 am

Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
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