Our Cozy Assumptions....

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Our Cozy Assumptions....

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Church History Matters. "The Racist American Context the Church was Born Into" 3:56
Deacon: I found this opening conversation between two LDS apologists interesting. 1. I was impressed with how apologetic the apologists are. 2. I appreciated their comments/acknowledgement about "cozy assumptions" and "assumptions that weren't quite accurate. 3. I thought I would enjoy General Conference talks more if they were presented in this humble manner. 4. Would TBM's be offended or less inspired if General Conference talks were presented more like this?

Casey Paul Griffiths: Yeah. And one thing to keep in mind is that this is a challenging topic. It challenges the way that we look at the role of prophets and apostles.
3:56
It even challenges maybe our perceptions of the society that we live in. And it can be really uncomfortable to discuss, but the leader of the
church, President Nelson, has asked the members of the church to not only deal with this topic, but the exact wording he used was to “lead out”—
Scott Woodward: Mm-hmm.
Casey Paul Griffiths: —in dealing with this topic. And so we're trying to follow the prophet here in having a discussion
about race and racism, and the end goal is to try and make things better.
Scott Woodward: Mm-hmm.
Casey Paul Griffiths: So we're imperfect, and we're going to make mistakes, and we might phrase things poorly, but we're going to do the best we can because I
think both of us feel really strongly that this is something that needs attention, that we need to understand and we need to present solutions to as well.
We need to find a way forward.
Scott Woodward: Yeah. The true history here can grate a little uncomfortably against, sometimes
I call them our “cozy assumptions”—
Casey Paul Griffiths: Mm-hmm.
Scott Woodward: —that we might hold about prophets and God. It's certainly done that for me.
Casey Paul Griffiths: Mm-hmm.
Scott Woodward: You know, at very least it forces us to confront and examine our assumptions, and that can be uncomfortable.
It can be painful, especially when we realize maybe our assumptions weren't quite accurate. But to do the hard work of modifying our assumptions in light of more accurate
information, ultimately, I've found, has created a more robust faith, a more flexible faith in God and in prophets.
And I think this is necessary and important work to do.
Casey Paul Griffiths: Mm-hmm. Scott Woodward: So let's do it. Casey Paul Griffiths: Let's do it.
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2bizE: Mm-hmm
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So we're imperfect, and we're going to make mistakes, and we might phrase things poorly, but we're going to do the best we can...
This should be chiseled on the COB. It's a perfect description of the current flaccid relationship the church has with reality.

But the way they approach it here is much more humble than the approach preferred by church leaders, which is to say YOU are imperfect and you hear things poorly, but we're doing the best we can to stop you from thinking about it.
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain

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