NOM

Nelson is BSing - focusing on the relatively little they do, while ignoring the stealing, manipulation and dishonesty of which he and other leaders are guilty.

Lds church financial corruption is undeniable.

1) They warped scripture to get more money (tithes are supposed to be based on increase not income).
2) They take from the poor by demanding based on income when the poor have no increase left.
3) They disobey the law of tithing (Deut 14:28-29 - which is not taught in curriculum about tithing) - which states that at least 1/3 of tithes are supposed to be given to the poor.
4) Finances are kept secret except Oaks admitted no tithes go to the poor.
5) They use the temple to make money - charging for worthiness. This type of thing is the only time on record when Jesus expressed anger.

Newme wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:26 amThe church’s main goal is NOT salvation and happiness - but their goal is for all to give the church and its leaders the glory. They care more that people stay in the lds cult’s “ship” than if they get in a ship of God.

Amen! I wish they did care about the people, though. What a different religion it would be.

Uh, Russ, isn’t this what the church is supposed to be doing anyway? The members are good people because they are good people, not just because they are Mormon.

Nelson

821 million going hungry without regular access to food is a recent high, but is just returning to where it was 10 years ago, and is actually a decrease as a percentage of total population vs a decade ago.

Overall for the past 50 years, we have made global progress in lifting people out of poverty.

I'm sure the other statistics have similar caveats.

-10

-10 to Stevenson for bashing questioners.

Mr. Stevenson, please provide straight answers.

græy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:50 am Nelson

821 million going hungry without regular access to food is a recent high, but is just returning to where it was 10 years ago, and is actually a decrease as a percentage of total population vs a decade ago.

Overall for the past 50 years, we have made global progress in lifting people out of poverty.

I'm sure the other statistics have similar caveats.

-10

Don't worry, in response the Mormon Church will do it's part to combat hunger by building another temple in Orem

What I heard of Russ talk sounded like "your goodness is great for marketing, keep it up". I need to rethink my meager fast offering contributions.

+5 to Stevenson for reminding me how they got rid of home teaching and replaced it with ministering, and by so doing killed off monthly awkward and forced friend visits entirely.

I hope all the other changes work equally well.

A woman gave the closing prayer. Another of my predictions goes down. I'm glad.

DPRoberts wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:57 am What I heard of Russ talk sounded like "your goodness is great for marketing, keep it up". I need to rethink my meager fast offering contributions.

Good summary.

-20 for Nelson telling about his travels...don't forget to tell everyone it was private jets all the way for you and your entourage.

I like zero hour church Mr. Nelson. Thank you very much.

-100 for talking about latter day saint charities like it is the Mormon Church giving the money. It is money donated by the members ON TOP OF TITHING. The LD$ Church doesn't give their money away...they give members money away and act like it was theirs and they did it, then sock the rest away in investments.

Open the books Mr. Nelson. Prove me wrong.

Wow. I wish I could believe you Mr. Nelson that the Mormon Church has done all you say...I just can't know for sure since you don't show your financials to us.

-1000 for talking about all the help with cherry picked examples, and nothing to back up how they are actually spending the money.

Red Ryder wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:14 am

SincereInquirer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:12 am I am late to the party. Fortunately I missed every session yesterday. Praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

So far I have -10 to Gong for lots of covenant path references.

I am giving Franco -5 for speaking in Primary voice despite the fact she is not from the USA.

Franco sounded like a 3 year old giving a primary talk.

Did they wash out Gong’s ethnicity with make up and lighting?

No. He is just getting more righteous, hence, more white and delight some.

græy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 9:51 am I like Uchtdorf's positive "don't quit" message. "Our choices reveal more about us than our abilities."

Those are some simple ideas I wish my kids could absorb a bit more of.

+10

I'm not watching conference,but isn't that basically the Dumbledore quote?"

"It is our choices that show us what we truly are, far more that our abilities?" --Dumbledore (author: JK Rowling)

I hope someone calls out the first TBM who posts that atttributing it to Uchtdorf in a cutesy meme.

Red Ryder wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:11 am The Hobbit and the BoM have one thing in common....

An epic journey? A quest for gold? The first of more writings? Enshrinement in the Fantasy Writers Hall of Fame?

SincereInquirer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:15 amIt is money donated by the members ON TOP OF TITHING. The LD$ Church doesn't give their money away...they give members money away and act like it was theirs and they did it, then sock the rest away in investments.

Boom!

moksha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:24 pm

Red Ryder wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:11 am The Hobbit and the BoM have one thing in common....

An epic journey? A quest for gold? The first of more writings? Enshrinement in the Fantasy Writers Hall of Fame?

Lol The precious is the cult - it is made out to be god.
Deception, distraction, discouragement... it has good but is deceptive in making the evil out to look like gold, distracting from the real kingdom of God, and shame and discouragement if you find truth that conflicts with the cultish god.