RubinHighlander wrote: ↑
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:31 am
I was milling around the web and came across this Thinker of Thoughts video where he talks about the hoax apology site. There's a clip in there from Oaks, explaining that he was convinced the ban was from God and how he prayed for the ban to be lifted. Then at minute 18 there's a black TBM woman offering up her feelings on the matter of whether the ban was from God or men. It made me hurt inside and she tears along with her as I watched her pour out her heart on this topic. I cannot imagine what that pain must be like to be in the thick of the Cogdis over this policy and have leaders offer contradicting opinions on it. What a terrible thing this is, when someone wants so badly to believe in Jesus Christ and God and their unconditional love, only to have it all Fd up by men.
I'm so grateful I don't have to be in the messed up business of religion anymore, but I still feel much empathy for those trying to navigate it. Although I've never had to grapple directly with the race issues of the church, I've grappled with so much other church dogma BS, to the point I almost ended my life because of it. These are the things that make me angry and hateful toward the COB and many other religions that perpetuate BS across the globe.
I don't know, I think it is a bit more hopeful when the leaders are offering contradictory opinions on whether or not the ban was from men or God. If all of them were still willing to throw God under the bus, it would be much more painful to feel that God loves you less because of how much skin pigmentation you were born with. True, it is confusing to have some church leaders claiming it was God's will and some admit it was a mistake made by a man, but at least some church leaders have progressed to the point where they can admit that maybe BY was a bigot rather than throw God under the bus as a bigot.
Consider the feelings of women who go to the temple and hear how they will be priestesses unto their husband just like he is now a priest unto God, in other words, the husband will be her God. She is not and never will be equal to any man, but will be subject to him for eternity. Is being a wife so much higher than being a servant in the CK? I don't know if black's being told that they are only good enough to be servants to Gods is all that much better than women being told we will be concubines in a harem (a wife of lesser status is a concubine, and if the husband becomes a God and the woman is just a queen and priestess unto him, then she is of lesser status)
Now, at least SOME general authorities are saying, "no, that business about how black's can never have priesthood or become Gods is not from our Heavenly Father." But I have not heard one say that the temple ceremony itself is not from HF. That the sexism built into it is a mistake of men. (Probably the same man, BY) They just hedge on the idea that anyone becomes Gods, saying that he doesn't know if we teach that. But the temple pretty much says men will become Gods, and their wives priestesses unto them, and there is real confusion about do women become Gods or is "goddess" like the Roman gods where there is one highest God and others below him and still others under them? That women become gods was one item of false doctrine that BRM's Mormon Doctrine was critized for, because he implied that both men and women become Gods. But the church says men and women are equal, but clearly from the temple ceremony and structure of the church and husbands presiding, women are under men.
So, we at least have the church progressed to the point that black men become Gods, but do women? Or will women be concubines or consorts, unequal in rank to their polygamous husband? So, yes the confusion is painful, but there are tons of feminists who only stay in the church because the confusion gives them hope. And the church is so much further along on race than it is on gender. The only confusion still remaining is if the ban was originally from God.
Yes, it is painful to have church doctrine telling you that God loves you less than he loves someone else just because you were born who you were. But at least the official doctrine for lack of temple rights has change and the leaders are wondering if it ever was from God. But I think that is still less painful than having the doctrine still in place with confusion over what it means or church leaders being 100% behind the ban on black's holding priesthood being from God. As they currently are on women holding the priesthood and what is taught in the temple.
So, just saying that to me, the confusion is what gives hope that it was all wrong in the first place.