I am truly sorry for the discrimination you and your family experienced. It is wrong regardless of whether whites or blacks are the targets.Blashyrkh wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 5:20 amYes I am white. Pasty white. However, I grew up in Atlanta while my dad was at Ft. McPherson. No not the nice white Buckhead areas but the ghetto Adams Park area. I was one of about 10 white kids in my graduating class. I do realize the discrimination that minorities experienced as I got my ass kicked routinely simply for being a skinny white kid. I had to finally bash another kids face open with a rock in order to show that I would protect myself and stop getting sucker punched. My sister was sexually assaulted at school because it was a nothing more than a game to some people. What I also saw was Asians buying up stores in the inner city to make tons of money. I saw black men and women earn their doctorates and move back to their communities to provide services to the places they grew up. I saw the LGBTQ community buy up homes in the Grant Park area and turn what was once a horrid dump into a nice and clean community. Regardless of all of this I still believe that in a free society, no one should br forced to associate with anyone they don't want too.
I have to admit, your argument has an intuitive appeal - it is my building, I will rent to who I want. It is my restaurant, I will serve who I want. It is my business, I will sell to who I want. It is already well established, however, that there are constraints on the rights of private ownership. For example, eminent domain laws allow the government to take the home I have owned and lived in for decades and turn it into a freeway on-ramp, as happened to someone I know - even though it is my property. I may own a restaurant, but I am not free to disregard health codes or I get shut down - even though it is my restaurant. I may own a piece of land, but zoning laws prohibit me from, for example, building a sexually-oriented business if there is a school nearby, or perhaps even building any kind of business if it's in a residential area - even though it is my land. I may rent out a house, but there are laws that govern my ability to evict the tenants - even though I own the building. I can own a store, but I can't sell liquor if I don't have a license, I can't sell liquor to anyone under 21, and can't sell on Sundays in some cities - even though it is my store. I could keep going, but I am sure you get the point.
Given the dozens, if not hundreds of laws that already govern and circumscribe my rights as a landlord or business owner, I think we can all agree that owning something does not give me unrestricted rights in how I use it for commerce. I don't see how telling me my bakery has to serve gay customers is any different than telling me my bakery has to follow health codes, or how telling me I have to rent to blacks is any different than telling me I have to follow laws regarding evictions. Anti-discrimination laws are only a small subset of many, many laws that tell landlords and business owners exactly what they can and can't do with their own property. I don't see much of a distinction between anti-discrimination laws and lots of other well-established and longstanding laws.