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Church Launches Protection Training for Leaders of Children and Youth

Protecting Children and Youth

I met Sam Young at Sunstone. He was supportive of the Youth Protection Training of the BSA. Now the LDS church has launched their own training and I can see it softening the PR effect of Sam's march on Salt Lake City during October General Conference.

I am in a YM presidency and expect to take the training soon. The devil will clearly be in the details. The training page does establish two deep leadership and "Avoid extended one-on-one communication with children or youth." But I don't see where one-on-one bishop interviews will change since this is not "extended one-on-one communication with children or youth." I am in a YM presidency and will go through this training shortly and find out.

It is arguably the right move. But, some inspired prophet should have put this in place at least a century ago. It just looks like a prudent response in the current litigious environment.

Nit-picking here: the title itself doesn't sit right with me- it comes off as saying this is training to protect the leaders, not training to protect the youth...

Corsair wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:18 am
It is arguably the right move. But, some inspired prophet should have put this in place at least a century ago. It just looks like a prudent response in the current litigious environment.

Is it a step in the right direction? Sure, but to your point, a Church led by God would have had something in place long before the lawsuits started. Besides, does it protect youth alone behind closed doors with middle aged bishops who ask them sexual questions? Nope. Does it protect a youth assigned as a ministering companion with an older male (that still happens, right)? Nope. Does the two-deep rule get ignored sometimes? Yep, I saw it happen all the time when I was in Primary.

This is mere window dressing, folks. It is a small step in the right direction, but won't solve most of the real problems. The Church doesn't care enough about its children to make any meaningful changes.

crossmyheart wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:28 am Nit-picking here: the title itself doesn't sit right with me- it comes off as saying this is training to protect the leaders, not training to protect the youth...

You may have stumbled onto the unintentional and actual purpose of this training. I am truly not trying to be cynical about this effort because I think the results will be objectively beneficial to youth in the LDS church. Still, one of the benefits should be a reduction in abuse cases and abuse payouts to victims of ecclesiastic abuse.

This is a step in the right direction and it at least puts clear guidelines in place... although I find it hilarious the website is "ProtectingChildren.churchofjesuschrist.org" when Sam Young's motto was "Protect LDS Children."

So once again the church is reacting to news instead of making it by being proactive and having some actual guidance of problems that would come to not just them but all religions. They prove themselves to be frauds over and over again with these changes as well as only changing once they are fored to bow to public pressure.

Last - I noticed in the DN article that Bishops/Stake leaders are to call the help line while everyone else is to contact legal authorities first. That seems odd, doesn't it?

Church lawyers are hard at work these days.

So when will they issue an apology to Sam Young and admit he was right?

Also, did the church claim for a longtime that they were the "Gold Standard" for protecting children? That they were doing everything possible to prevent abuse? Guess they weren't doing 'everything.'

jfro18 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:57 am ... although I find it hilarious the website is "ProtectingChildren.churchofjesuschrist.org" when Sam Young's motto was "Protect LDS Children."

I find it inspiring. Don't you see the difference? Sam didn't overtly name Jesus Christ his slogan. The leadership knew in advance of the revelation that the use of the "LDS" would soon be a victory for Satan, and that's what outed Sam as an apostate rather than someone with genuine concern for the kids. You know how Satan succeeds by imitating true practices with counterfeit ones. Although I must say that it is kind of impressive how Satan consistently comes up with his counterfeits just slightly before the church adopts the same ideas as doctrine and policy.

I first read the title of the thread as "Protecting Children and Youth from the LDS Church." I guess my psyche is in a weird place.

My Relief Society councilor wife is taking the course on her computer today. It looks like anyone that's official can take the training, but I don't have a temple recommend.

deacon blues wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:11 pm My Relief Society councilor wife is taking the course on her computer today. It looks like anyone that's official can take the training, but I don't have a temple recommend.

I think the article said anyone can sign up to take the training - so you could do it if you wanted to. Someone else posted a screen cap of every page... looked very quick to me.

deacon blues wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:11 pm My Relief Society councilor wife is taking the course on her computer today. It looks like anyone that's official can take the training, but I don't have a temple recommend.

Rumor is absolutely anyone can take the training, including non-members. As long as you're willing to create a login, you're good.

Just This Guy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:22 pm So when will they issue an apology to Sam Young and admit he was right?

Also, did the church claim for a longtime that they were the "Gold Standard" for protecting children? That they were doing everything possible to prevent abuse? Guess they weren't doing 'everything.'

Without Sam Young, this training would never have happened. To me it is evidence that the Church knows it’s a problem, but rather than admit that they needed a lay member they excommunicated for pointing it out to them to point it out to them, this is another example of “President Nelson’s revelations in action”. It’s being described by believing members as a “Wendy, it’s happening” sort of thing, when really it’s an overdue baby step in a direction that should have been taken decades ago.

Sam Young is why this training is happening. Unfortunately, they didn’t listen to him close enough and this doesn’t go nearly far enough in protecting children in the Church of Jesus Christ of etc. and etc.

I think that Sam Young is responsible for getting it created. However, as far as the timing, it looks like this is another one of their list of positive media coverage things they can bring out to counter negative media that Bill Reel has talked about.

Look at the timing. last week between the church's reaffirmation on the WOW being mocked by people and news entities nationwide and Ed Smart coming out as gay and denouncing the church publicly, This coming out had got to be an attempt to counter the bad press.

The sickening part is this: How long have they had this on the shelf ready to go, waiting for bad news so they could bring it out? LDS INC didn't feel it was important enough to roll out immediately and instead waited until they needed good press. How many months or even years have they been waiting and how much damage was done while they waited?