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Here’s a thought experiment. If you asked the First Presidency or your local stake presidency if they thought it would be appropriate Church discipline to tell a member facing discipline they couldn’t see their family again in this life, they’d look at you like you were nuts. Of course that wouldn’t be right.

So why are they OK with cancelling Temple sealings and keeping people from their families for the eternities after excommunicating them as a form of Church discipline?

Doesn’t it kind of lead you to conclude they don’t really take the doctrine of Forever Families all that seriously if they’d never separate a family in this life but think nothing of separating a family in the next one?

There are so many of these "Thought Experiments" like this that I would like to "try" with a bishop, or any believer for that matter. Just the opportunity to ask "one simple question" and hope to get them to actually think about it.

Another example for me when my kid recently did the creepy polygamous property exchange in the temple (sealing) the thought crossed my mind of setting up a recommend interview with the bishop, and right up front just saying: "OK, let's just cut through all the bullspit, how much is this going to cost me?"


Another question I'd also like to pose after discussing how crappy of a father figure Elohim is: "Would you treat your kids that way?"

Not Buying It wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:43 pm So why are they OK with cancelling Temple sealings and keeping people from their families for the eternities after excommunicating them as a form of Church discipline?

Because they're brainwashed. The only other explanation would be that they are really evil and I have a hard time attributing that to them.
Bumbling, non-critical thinkers that have unquestioning loyalty to the dead brethren that have gone before them. Men who strain at gnats and swallow camels.

This mind set allows them to ignore truth and escape responsibility by saying, "Oh, it's God that's separating you from your families....not us! We're just the messengers".

This is the exact path they stumbled along before the 1976 priesthood renovation.

They totally ignored the truth taught here:

Galatians 3:27-29
"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ,

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

They stayed loyal to Brigham and dared not look critically at the issue in spite of what the Biblical scriptures taught. Can we truly expect different behavior from the currently brainwashed?

Double post

Palerider wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:02 pm Galatians 3:27-29
"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ,

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."

You overlooked the plain an precious part that was taken out by evil scribes: "unless ye drink of moistened tea leaves or pay not the protection shekels."

Hagoth wrote: ↑Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:36 pm
You overlooked the plain an precious part that was taken out by evil scribes: "unless ye drink of moistened tea leaves or pay not the protection shekels."

Sorry! I guess I'm just not inspired enough to receive that kind of revelation....
All this time I was thinking that I was good with Matthew 5:11.

"Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

And Luke 16:14 (NKJV)

"Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, also heard all these things, and they derided Him."

I should have known better....

I find it ironic that members are very willing to ascribe behavior to god that they would never tolerate in themselves or family.


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