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Sister Jones just spoke of her mother being sick for christmas and all the family desperately praying for a healing miracle which didn't happen. Do these people hear themselves?!? Has the day of miracles ceased?

Looks like the Grinch makes a special appearance!

Part of the gospel of lowered expectations. The really promising stuff will be left to getting a planet and wives in the Celestial Kingdom.

moksha wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:15 am Part of the gospel of lowered expectations. The really promising stuff will be left to getting a planet and wives in the Celestial Kingdom.

Then comes the disappointment when you realize that due to a translation error you get a plant on Kolob. Usually a shrub.

Just This Guy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:16 am Then comes the disappointment when you realize that due to a translation error you get a plant on Kolob. Usually a shrub.

Hoard of Angry Sister-Wives: "You promised us a planet, not this shrub!!!"

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:29 pm Sister Jones just spoke of her mother being sick for christmas and all the family desperately praying for a healing miracle which didn't happen.

I think it strange to publicly recount such a thing. The faith-promoting thing would be only to recount stories where the miracle happened. But, then, I guess that "Do you have faith not to be healed?" thing has gained traction among the believers.

Do you have faith to believe in a God who is not a God of miracles? A God who loves you conditionally? A God who wants you to stay a respectful distance? I say, do you believe in this Great Being?

and when someone protests that that kind of God makes no sense -

But that is the beauty of it!

(I have in my mind the image and voice of the preacher from a pre-1990 temple film - the man who played Uncle Ben in the LDS movie by the same name decades ago.)

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:29 pm Sister Jones just spoke of her mother being sick for christmas and all the family desperately praying for a healing miracle which didn't happen. Do these people hear themselves?!? Has the day of miracles ceased?

No, they have faith not to have their prayers answered.

The Church's miracle problem:

The Internet allows for verification.

There can be no modern miracles because you have to PROVE it.

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:29 pm Sister Jones just spoke of her mother being sick for christmas and all the family desperately praying for a healing miracle which didn't happen. Do these people hear themselves?!? Has the day of miracles ceased?

Moroni 7:37 – ...it is by faith that miracles are wrought; ... wherefore, if these things have ceased wo be unto the [COJCOLDS], for it is because of unbelief, and all is vain.

Looks like Mormonism is guilty by their own measures. There is a lot of vanity in Utah...