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The NCAA reported that of the 510,000 student athletes in their organization, fewer than TEN are transgender. That's less than .002%

https://thehill.com/homenews/lgbtq/5046 ... ge-sports/

Compare that to the amount of time and money spent villainizing and bullying these kids.

To bring it closer to home for Mormons, of the almost 60,000 student athletes in this state when the big blowup happened in the state congress, there were FOUR transgender students in the state, and only one who wanted to play competitively.

So, no effort is too much to keep I tiny minority of children out of sports. Meanwhile, firearms are the number one killer of children in our country. Apparently that is far more acceptable in our inverted "conservative" morality than seeing even one trans kid kick a ball around a field.

How many of these people even know a trans person? Many of them probably couldn't find one to spit on if they went looking for them, yet their very existence is the number one threat for many Americans. Why are they so afraid? What is the political advantage or it, other than creating a completely helpless villain to attack?

And I'm not even going to talk about what it means that suicide is the number one killer of kids here in Jesus' very own Zion.

Yeah, but the ISSUE is worth billyuns and billyuns in political capital. That's the real issue.
Personally, I wouldn't want my daughter wrestling against a boy, but if she really wants to I won't stop her. Sports are just an escape from reality anyway, until they're not.
I hope this post gets some feedback, even though you posted in "The Coffee Shop."

deacon blues wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:53 pm Yeah, but the ISSUE is worth billyuns and billyuns in political capital. That's the real issue.
Personally, I wouldn't want my daughter wrestling against a boy, but if she really wants to I won't stop her. Sports are just an escape from reality anyway, until they're not.
I hope this post gets some feedback, even though you posted in "The Coffee Shop."

Well, by the old guidelines, anything political belonged here. But this is not something I would like to discuss in polite society over coffee, so I am not sure it belongs here. How about putting it in the we hate Transphobes forum.

I have a trans in-law-sib/daughter’s housemate. Seeing as she is too terrified to come out to her biological parents, who took 15 years before they treated my daughter as a fellow human instead of devil’s spawn, so she has good reason to be terrified to come out as trans to bio parents. So, we have adopted her and what is going on is terrifying.

deacon blues wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:53 pm Yeah, but the ISSUE is worth billyuns and billyuns in political capital. That's the real issue.
Personally, I wouldn't want my daughter wrestling against a boy, but if she really wants to I won't stop her. Sports are just an escape from reality anyway, until they're not.
I hope this post gets some feedback, even though you posted in "The Coffee Shop."

I don't think this this should be a political issue.

I agree that telling a child, "you are in the wrong body," is confusing and abusive.

Making the world adjust for what someone else believes is exactly what most non-believers complain about.

In just the short time this has been a public issue, the heart breaking stories of people that can't go back are accumulating.

And the compassionate ones, openly reject and dismiss the feelings of billions while claiming to care about the 1 in 1000000.

The whole time this transgender debate has been raging in the world I kept thinking of you guys. Joseph Smith thought he was a prophet of God. He may or may not have had sex with multiple partners. He may have convinced people that he had a good plan for the gospel. And most people on this forum have been very vocal and saying that he was full of shit and he had no right to try and convince others of his plan. And that others that followed his plan were somehow defective.

Now put the shoe on the other foot.

You have someone who thinks that they were born in the wrong body. First off, what does that even mean? If gender is just a construct, well construct a different persona to fit your gender.

Trying to force everyone else to believe something that isn't quite natural, and belittle them, hate them, disparage them, and try to convince them that they are the ones in the wrong it's just weird.

I've only known one transgender person. We had many long discussions. And from my Mormon upbringing, I was actually quite accepting of their predicament. Believing perhaps that we had pre-existence, and that they might have been of a different gender in that pre-existence, I had no problem accepting that they might have actually been of a different gender. But that didn't change what they have been born into. I've had my own struggles with gender identity. Neither here nor there, but I think I remember three female lives.

But that is not who I am this time around. It would seem crazy to me to try to convince people otherwise.

Yet those who promote this mental illness, really do want us all to believe what they believe. That it is somehow okay to decide that someone should not work with what they were given, but rather that the culture will somehow fix what they consider a mistake.

It all comes back to something I say.

Life is an opportunity, not a promise.

No one is required to believe what you believe. Thinking that you have the right to belittle someone because they don't believe what you believe I think it's just the height of hypocrisy on this board.