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by deacon blues
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Inerrancy among Church Employees about Church Materials
Replies: 8
Views: 265

Re: Inerrancy among Church Employees about Church Materials

I noticed Spackman's article starts with "I recently had a (now deleted conversation) about the printing error..... It feels like he's already concerned about someone watching over his shoulder. What kind of environment would that be to work in? :( Another thought. The Church could save itself some ...
by deacon blues
Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dreams equal visions?
Replies: 7
Views: 157

Dreams equal visions?

One of the themes of 1st Nephi is that God speaks through dreams. Chapters 1, 8, and perhaps others emphasize this. What does this mean in the context of Joseph Smith's boyhood and young adult experience? Annotated BOM reminds us that Joseph Smith Sr. had some remarkable dreams, with striking simila...
by deacon blues
Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Inerrancy among Church Employees about Church Materials
Replies: 8
Views: 265

Re: Inerrancy among Church Employees about Church Materials

That's a great article by Spackman, and it brings up some serrious thoughts. As you point out Corsair, challenging inerrancy could be a brave gesture, but such move will likely result in consequences for the whistle blower.
by deacon blues
Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: TBM's and LGT
Replies: 7
Views: 193

TBM's and LGT

The "Heartlanders at it again" thread got me thinking about how many TBM's are actually even aware the Limited Geography Theory- LGT. I would expect most are unaware of it. A few may think about it, and some may even take it seriously, while others prefer John Sorenson and other BYU profs. take on t...
by deacon blues
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If Joseph Smith got it right, then who got it wrong?
Replies: 11
Views: 277

Re: If Joseph Smith got it right, then who got it wrong?

I am convinced that the field of organized religion, while it may motivate some to be better people, is a lousy area to explore if you are seeking truth or reality. Think of it for a moment. If Joseph was right, every other religious organization is wrong. Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, Buddists a...
by deacon blues
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse
Replies: 26
Views: 603

Re: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse

Book of Mormon racism is like the dog poop that gets on my lawn from time to time. If I don't remove it it's just going to keep stinking, and every so often somebody's going to step in it. :roll:
by deacon blues
Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:42 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Just in time to study for the first Book of Mormon Sunday School class of the new year!
Replies: 10
Views: 464

Re: Just in time to study for the first Book of Mormon Sunday School class of the new year!

Dear Annotated, I thought the comment on 1st Nephi 13:10 was especially apt, considering the recent idea by apologists that there were gentilesalready on the American continent; which idea is used to explain the missing Near-eastern DNA among today's native Americans.
by deacon blues
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Just in time to study for the first Book of Mormon Sunday School class of the new year!
Replies: 10
Views: 464

Re: Just in time to study for the first Book of Mormon Sunday School class of the new year!

Annotated, I saw the post. Thanks a lot. I remember bringing up "the two different fountains" in a Sunday school class once, and got a lot of blank stares. I think it's a least possible that Joseph Smith confused the details of Lehi's and Nephi's dream, and no one has ever brought it up, but it's ju...
by deacon blues
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:01 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Week 3
Replies: 9
Views: 300

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Week 3

I pointed this out in another thread, but 1st Nephi 11:25, and 12:16 seem kind of confused. 1st Nephi 11:25 speaks about a fountain of living water: "And it came to pass that I beheld that the rod of iron, which my father had seen, was the word of God, which led to the fountain of living waters, or ...
by deacon blues
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me Week 2
Replies: 14
Views: 460

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me Week 2

Luckily for the LDS church, making Sunday School occur only on the first and third week of the month shortchanges the detail on each lesson. Elders Quorum and Relief Society will not cover this crazy story. By the time week three rolls around, Laban's homicide will be ignored in favor of "Lehi's Vi...
by deacon blues
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What is the Church’s stance on feminism?
Replies: 19
Views: 432

Re: What is the Church’s stance on feminism?

By that same token, we also frown upon extremes such as male chauvinism, sexism, machismo, or any other cultural influence that would cause men to think and act in ways that are not in harmony with gospel teachings of respect, love, modesty, chastity, equality, and family responsibilities. Ooohhh ....
by deacon blues
Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Just in time to study for the first Book of Mormon Sunday School class of the new year!
Replies: 10
Views: 464

Re: Just in time to study for the first Book of Mormon Sunday School class of the new year!

I have a question about one thing. 1st Nephi 11:25 speaks about a fountain of living water: "And it came to pass that I beheld that the rod of iron, which my father had seen, was the word of God, which led to the fountain of living waters, or to the tree of life; which waters are a representation of...
by deacon blues
Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If I didn't have the gospel in my life...
Replies: 6
Views: 251

Re: If I didn't have the gospel in my life...

To get back to the topic- I don't think most people who say that have thought much about what they would do if they learned the Church isn't true. They don't even ask "Could the Church be untrue?" because they are afraid of disturbing the orderliness of their LDS/TBM world view, where everything is ...
by deacon blues
Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If I didn't have the gospel in my life...
Replies: 6
Views: 251

Re: If I didn't have the gospel in my life...

I just had two thoughts occur to me: 1-Whatever the religious gene (or genes) look like, it is very common, because most people have it. 2- People with this gene/genes know the church is true, because they really need life to make sense, and one way for life to make sense is to know the church is tr...
by deacon blues
Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Consiglieri's Meet up at St. George Lion
Replies: 4
Views: 280

Re: Consiglieri's Meet up at St. George Lion

5 inches of snow in Sandy this morning. Regrettably I think I will stay home.😕
Hopefully someone will take notes and post somewhere.
by deacon blues
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Just in time to study for the first Book of Mormon Sunday School class of the new year!
Replies: 10
Views: 464

Re: Just in time to study for the first Book of Mormon Sunday School class of the new year!

Dear Annotated, I just began reading your work, and judging from the "Agency" and "About the Author" sections, I am very impressed. It's going to take a lot of time time read and process, but I believe it will be worth the effort. Thanks so much.
by deacon blues
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Consiglieri's Meet up at St. George Lion
Replies: 4
Views: 280

Re: Consiglieri's Meet up at St. George Lion

I'm watching the weather, and it doesn't look good. I've had some scary experiences on I-15 in the wintertime. Maybe RFM will post about it on Mormon Discussions. I would like to meet him.
by deacon blues
Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: List of rejected Utah vanity license plates
Replies: 16
Views: 537

Re: List of rejected Utah vanity license plates

:lol: :lol: :lol: It's really early in the year, but I think this thread should definitely be nominated for an award in the humor category. I'm lovin' it.
by deacon blues
Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: List of rejected Utah vanity license plates
Replies: 16
Views: 537

Re: List of rejected Utah vanity license plates

There was one on the news tonight that was possibly going to be recalled. It read "DEPORTM." :roll:

The first post IS funny. :lol: Did they think it meant bullshiz?
by deacon blues
Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Whoever wrote the BOM......
Replies: 39
Views: 1663

Re: Whoever wrote the BOM......

Thanks for the emphasis on 1st Nephi 2:12-13. :) Correction: In my opening post I said that Zedekiah was killed in 587 B.C. Historical records say it was his sons who were killed. (except for Mulek, of course) Zedekiah was blinded in 587 B.C. but survived until 561 B.C. Deacon regrets this error. :r...