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Thanks. I wrote it with the intention of posting it on the You Tube post for Pres. Nelson’s talk so where I used the word prophet I didn’t mean I believed the guy was a prophet. I should have revised it somewhat before I posted it on NOM. I tried to tailor it for believing readers.

Dude, (or should I say Dudette?) why are you up so late? On a scale of 1-10, 1 being full bore religious and 10 being completely humanist, I am a 5, but that could change by tomorrow. Heck, when I read your post it moves me to a 6 or 7.

Six Truths 1. Prophets are human, and humans make mistakes. Specific examples are countless and range from the book of Jonah to the 1947 First Presidency letter to Lowry Nelson. 2. When humans make mistakes, they are more likely to rationalize those mistakes than to humbly say, "I made a mistake." (...

I’m presuming President Nelson has the keys to operate a seer stone, but with all the other keys he has it might be hard to find the right one.

Yobispo wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:35 am

deacon blues wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:04 pm

I left a comment. Just a reference for a different point of view.

Hey Deacon, I just left a comment, too, but there were no other comments. Hmmmm....

That's weird. I just went back to it and saw my comment but it was the only one.

If a prophet made a mistake would he say, "I made a mistake?" It's a humility test, people.

I left a comment. Just a reference for a different point of view.

He does say, questions are "good." So I've got this figured now... Questions=good :) Doubts=bad :evil: But it wasn't the questions that made me doubt....it was the true answers to those questions that created doubt. So shouldn't he be saying: Questions...good :) Answers....bad :oops: Doubts..... un...

Darn it. I can't make my comments come out right. Must be time to go to bed.

In a recent Reddit AMA Terryl Givens announced that he is "writing of a book that would do for the PGP what By the Hand of Mormon did for that scripture." https://www.reddit.com/r/latterdaysaints/comments/d29gax/i_am_terryl_givens_ama/ Givens says, "Abraham's teachings and writings on the creation,...

...but look at the hatchet job Gee does on the BOA volume in the JS papers project: https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/the-joseph-smith-papers-project-stumbles/. This is fascinating to me. They're fighting over the differences between the Keebler Elf and the Lucky Charms Leprechaun when mayb...

I recall that Boyd Packer said TBM's are not supposed to be neutral, and backed it up with a reminder/warning of the temple covenants. Theoretically, then, TBM's would be too biased to serve on the jury in my hypothetical trial. I've never heard of a critic saying we are committed/obligated to oppos...

I'm down for it. It sounds interesting.

If the Church went on trial where would you fit in best? As a witness for the defense? the prosecution? Would you qualify as an impartial jury member? As I think about this, I want to think I am impartial. I hold to a belief that if the evidence (old and new) could support such a decision I could fi...

The Church has billions to throw at shopping malls and real estate ventures, but can’t be bothered to make sure the water is safe at its youth camps and places of worship? We have the resources to make sure President Nelson has a private jet when he flies to Pacific Islands, but not the resources t...

I realize that posting anything remotely faith promoting on this forum is a dangerous thing to do. But I'm old which means that I tend to do things that aren't that wise from time to time. I also enjoy visiting and find value in reading your comments, even if I don't agree most of the time. So if I...

Wow. Hagoth gets my vote for best explanation. I mean . . .Damn.

Emower wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:38 pm

Refresh my memory, is the D&C 76 thing where Joseph said "Are you seeing what I am seeing!!" Sidney said, "Uh, yeah. Totally. I am so seeing what you are seeing!" Because that happened with Martin Harris and the 3 witnesses.

Yes.

Self reliance and preparedness? Which leads to people buying a bunch of stuff with money they don't have, on stuff that they don't know how to use, that will not be useful to them when an actual emergency happened and will go bad before it is ever used. At least in my area that is what happens. Tha...

I understand the feeling. Even after my views changed I still cared what friends and neighbors thought about me as a person.