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by deacon blues
Mon May 09, 2022 11:42 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormonism's Galileo Moment
Replies: 18
Views: 593

Re: Mormonism's Galileo Moment

The Gallileo moment may have it's origins at BYU in the early 1900's. BYU were professors fired for teaching evolution. The Church tries to defend itself, but the evidence continues to mount for DNA/Evolution. The Church leaders don't have the faith to make a bold anti-evolution statement, so they c...
by deacon blues
Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: BYU-I Censors Anatomy textbooks
Replies: 13
Views: 494

BYU-I Censors Anatomy textbooks

You tube post on a textbook at BYU-Idaho blocks out the genitals on pictures of the human body. I can't believe this..... well yes I can. :o :cry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmp__fCVPvs
by deacon blues
Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How deep is your hole?
Replies: 15
Views: 505

Re: How deep is your hole?

I've been digging for 12 years now. My shelf broke in 2010, Although it was cracked long before that. I can accept that the average Joe on the streets of the MorCor can believe in the Church. I can accept that the average GA may think they're helping save the world. I understand how denial and confi...
by deacon blues
Sat Apr 23, 2022 8:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormonism's Galileo Moment
Replies: 18
Views: 593

Re: Mormonism's Galileo Moment

I'd love to hear Hagoth on Mormon Stories. :D Like Galileo's helio-centrism, DNA is a world view changer. It has totally changed how evidence is evaluated in the courtroom. It confirms Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Forensics, especially DNA, now supersedes witness testimony in the courtroom, as it s...
by deacon blues
Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Wake-up Call for Mormon Women
Replies: 3
Views: 355

Re: Wake-up Call for Mormon Women

This is a great podcast. It made me reflect about how many times Church classes I've attended have been diverted from polygamy. It's obvious from a focus on D&C 132 why they don't want to talk about it. Section 132 show a narcissistic, dictatorial, obsessive Joseph, not a kind and loving God. At tim...
by deacon blues
Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 34
Views: 1167

Re: Supporting our own

I just finished listening to Jfro on Mormon stories. It was an outstanding presentation! I appreciated his recognition of Hagoth as well. There are at many others, if I tried to name you I'd surely leave someone out, who post here with outstanding writing and other projects. We on NOM have enjoyed t...
by deacon blues
Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Church and the Rule of Law
Replies: 14
Views: 761

Re: The Church and the Rule of Law

Joseph Smith famously said, “That which is wrong in one set of circumstances is right in another.” My point above is that in the Church the Prophet is the Law. It is Joseph Smith and/or Pres. Nelson that decides what is right and wrong. There are many stories from the early Church to the present, t...
by deacon blues
Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Church and the Rule of Law
Replies: 14
Views: 761

Re: The Church and the Rule of Law

Joseph Smith famously said, “That which is wrong in one set of circumstances is right in another.”
by deacon blues
Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:19 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The "religion is a crutch" meme.
Replies: 8
Views: 559

Re: The "religion is a crutch" meme.

I agree. Religion is subjective, hence religious truth is subjective. (although few if any religions would agree.) But some methods that religions use are useful, others not so much. :roll: I have this on the authority of Boyd Packer. ;) He would probably disagree with many of us on this board, but ...
by deacon blues
Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Updated list of Humble Braggage
Replies: 7
Views: 696

Re: Updated list of Humble Braggage

I remember missionary leadership was and is a big deal. I even hear ex-Mormons say “I was an AP.”
by deacon blues
Wed Apr 06, 2022 4:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The "religion is a crutch" meme.
Replies: 8
Views: 559

Re: The "religion is a crutch" meme.

Thanks, Stealth. :D That TED talk (atheism 2.0) made some great points. I look for way to build bridges, and so does the speaker, Alain de Botton. Saying, "I'm an atheist" tends to exclude and scare people who disagree. It can feel as scary and exclusive as saying "my Church is the only true Church....
by deacon blues
Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Saturday morning Spring 2022!!
Replies: 109
Views: 2601

Re: NOMference Saturday morning Spring 2022!!

"Perilous times will come." These words from 2nd Timothy have been repeated ever since they written in the Epistle to Timothy almost two thousand years ago. Two thousand years ago they thought they were in the "last days.'
by deacon blues
Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Saturday morning Spring 2022!!
Replies: 109
Views: 2601

Re: NOMference Saturday morning Spring 2022!!

"Faith is a choice not a chance." Hmm.... yes one can choose to avoid evidence that contradicts one's faith. But isn't that contradiction evidence of a weak faith?
by deacon blues
Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Saturday morning Spring 2022!!
Replies: 109
Views: 2601

Re: NOMference Saturday morning Spring 2022!!

MoPag wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:08 am
Oh Bullshit!!!! You have plenty of money!!!! -100
Agreed.
"Our leaders with very nominal humanitarian funds...." what curiously careful phrase, Elder Anderson.
by deacon blues
Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Saturday morning Spring 2022!!
Replies: 109
Views: 2601

Re: NOMference Saturday morning Spring 2022!!

bednar: minus 5 for not quoting the Joseph Smith translation of John chapter 1. He quoted KJV John 1, which explains Jesus was the Word. Nobody has explained why Joseph Smith changed this mistranslation.
by deacon blues
Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: April Fools Day Unmasking
Replies: 14
Views: 692

Re: April Fools Day Unmasking

You look great! Who's the guy in the hat and boots? ;)
by deacon blues
Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Under the Banner of Heaven TV show
Replies: 41
Views: 1497

Re: Under the Banner of Heaven TV show

I'm reminded of the song: "We don't talk about Bruno." In Mainstream LDS it's: "We don't talk about FLDS." Especially in front of potential converts. :o
by deacon blues
Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The "religion is a crutch" meme.
Replies: 8
Views: 559

The "religion is a crutch" meme.

One hears the "religion is a crutch" meme from time to time in post Mormon circles; Non-believers sometimes use it as referring to some people (mentally weak believers) who need religion to get through life. Sometimes it is used by religious believers (like BK Packer) to refer to insensitive non-bel...
by deacon blues
Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: God’s Intervention
Replies: 47
Views: 2576

Re: God’s Intervention

What if, just what if God was Love and Truth? Two very powerful ideas; as Victor Hugo once said, "Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come." :o Very, very few of us have actually seen or heard God. Some, or perhaps most of us have felt God. If God is an actual physical or Spiritual ...
by deacon blues
Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:33 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mocking Bald Prophets
Replies: 3
Views: 354

Mocking Bald Prophets

In light of 2nd Kings 2:23-25, do you have any fears or concerns about our current bald first presidency, criticizing them, and watching out for bears; especially if you live in areas which bears are known to habituate?