Shulem is Paul Osborne. He was, at one point, a hobby apologist. His writing on the topic is unmatched.moksha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:50 amShulem's many threads on the Celestial Forum at Discuss Mormonism cover this topic in great detail.
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- Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:43 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Book of Abraham Apologetics History
- Replies: 2
- Views: 59
Re: Book of Abraham Apologetics History
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:41 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 881
- Views: 251560
Re: Keeping up with Trump
Wow..... wow. The bigoted projection and unfounded accusations are noted. Seems that these jew-hating accusations are all a projection, moksha. Any chance you are going to put down your projections for just a minute and answer any or all of my questions? Must you try to excuse any of Trump's past a...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:17 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 881
- Views: 251560
Re: Keeping up with Trump
Trump furious after Pentagon officials warned against using military for coup : Liz Cheney https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-furious-after-pentagon-officials-warned-against-using-military-for-coup-liz-cheney/ar-AA1l66HV?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=a2790d343a5b4cdfe009502b4f328dcc&ei=8 I...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:31 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2520
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
I generally agree with you, ME. I just don't think there's an global plot to castrate people. Like I said before, nature and technology will be the determining factors, not evil conspirators. We move forward constantly in other scientific fields. Why not use our knowledge to pump less crap into the...
- Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:05 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 881
- Views: 251560
Re: Keeping up with Trump
Now this one is funny. “I hope that there are options and alternatives that reflect the important challenges that we’re facing, and that reflect leadership to meet those challenges, but that choice can never be Donald Trump because a vote for Donald Trump may mean the last election that you ever get...
- Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:56 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Requirements for a Stake
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Re: Requirements for a Stake
Where I am, there are several empty ward building. Various wards and branches got small enough they had to be consolidated and the ended with fewer wards than building. LDSinc. still owns the building. I wonder how they feel about having to maintain buildings that no one uses. I think this is a big...
- Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:15 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Requirements for a Stake
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Re: Requirements for a Stake
The math says - there is a problem with this model. Basically, the minimum required to create a ward is less than the minimum required to staff a ward. It is hard to fathom what has happened to lower the standard to this level. Wards in the midwest will go without executive secretaries or SS presid...
- Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:00 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Requirements for a Stake
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Re: Requirements for a Stake
The unified requirements used to create a stake will now include the need for each stake to have 2,000 total members in the stake. Stakes in the U.S. and Canada previously needed to have 3,000 members. Those outside these two countries needed 1,900. Stakes will need 150 active, full-tithe-paying Me...
- Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:55 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2520
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
https://www.wsj.com/world/billions-in-u-s-funding-hasnt-convinced-developing-world-to-ditch-coal-f11ffa57?mod=djemalertNEWS “It happened too quickly and ignored the ‘just’ part of the ‘just transition,’ ” said one person involved in the negotiations. Don't blame me. I am just the messenger. Even if ...
- Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:16 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Real people
- Replies: 4
- Views: 167
Re: Real people
Is anyone else ever put off by all the leaders from Bishop to SP and above who all seem like pompous asses because they have soooo much education and are smarter than everyone else ??I mean really I was never able to afford a great education got what I could an associate degree in criminal justice ...
- Sun Dec 03, 2023 11:00 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2520
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Like I said, we cannot sustain endless population growth. We don't have to sterilize anybody. Nature will put itself in balance, and we may not like the way that happens. Maybe we should try to be participants rather than victims. I agree with you, Hagoth. It will run its course naturally. And all ...
- Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:50 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2520
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
On the other thing, I will bite. The depopulation thing is not about the environment. Its just a fad among hippies and fancy people. I am cool with it. People who dont like kids or dont care for kids shouldnt have kids. People who think their electric car is better for the environment than my Mom’s ...
- Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:42 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2520
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Well, i have a different take. Politicized science is about as legit as that Mormon priesthood authority but at least it weighs less than a stack of gold plates, and, so far, doesn’t appear to be in the underpants business. If the consensus was real, and the science was legit, I sure as hell wouldn’...
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:18 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Requirements for a Stake
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Re: Requirements for a Stake
I've been interested in the new standards for creating stakes and ward : https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/187zkj6/a_lot_of_wards_esp_outside_the_usa_are_about_to/ Stakes are required to have 150 full-tithe paying priesthood holders. There could be a problem as more people check out. "Mini...
- Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:00 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2520
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
The thing conspiracy theorists have in common is that whatever the topic: climate, age of earth, shape of earth, evolution denial... they are all similarly convinced that the scientific consensus on their particular topic is some kind of unfounded religion-like mutual agreement between millions of ...
- Fri Dec 01, 2023 9:02 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2520
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
No. I'm just challenging your conspiracy theory proposition, and wondering why you think a post-Mormon support group is the best platform to preach it. I would enjoy addressing this "wonder" that you are having, Hagoth. If there is an appropriate time and place for that conversation, I would absolu...
- Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:34 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Put your AI art here!
- Replies: 37
- Views: 3441
- Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:21 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2520
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
So basically, you are asking me to be more like you, and less like me, so you're comfortable reading my threads? No. I'm just challenging your conspiracy theory proposition, and wondering why you think a post-Mormon support group is the best platform to preach it. I would enjoy addressing this "won...
- Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:23 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Setting & maintaining a temple boundary
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1848
Re: Setting & maintaining a temple boundary
Hagoth's and RR's posts are true. So true. I would never recommend 17 years of inauthentic living or rationalization. I also do not recommend tossing away a great relationship over something as jackassed as dressing up, shaking hands, and repeating some lines. I do recommend, however, loud laughter ...
- Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:06 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Setting & maintaining a temple boundary
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1848
Re: Setting & maintaining a temple boundary
Hi Gang : Would like some input on setting boundaries about Not attending the Temple !! So here is my story joined the church with my wife at age 21 very active struggled financially for years raising a family. Joined the Army in 1982 for a steady job stayed 10 years got out worked in law enforceme...