Keeping up with Trump

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Re: Keeping up with Trump

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Mayan_Elephant wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:28 am
moksha wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:05 pm Hope ........... proposed bloodbath.
In your own words, you said, "hope" and "proposed bloodbath."

Are they correct? We are correct to be concerned about you and by you? Who will you kill first?
My exact quote: "Hope that does not lead to Trump's proposed bloodbath."

Is defending Trump leading you to a brain short circuit?
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moksha wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:36 pm
Mayan_Elephant wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:28 am
moksha wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:05 pm Hope ........... proposed bloodbath.
In your own words, you said, "hope" and "proposed bloodbath."

Are they correct? We are correct to be concerned about you and by you? Who will you kill first?
My exact quote: "Hope that does not lead to Trump's proposed bloodbath."

Is defending Trump leading you to a brain short circuit?
Oh, so you would like your quotes to be considered in full and in context? That is an interesting twist. You seemed like you prefer that quotes be taken completely out of context, that a conspiracy be attached to the out of context quote, that you act on that conspiracy that you have theorized and that you spend your time acting the victim of the catastrophized conspiracy.

If you have changed, and you think context matters, congratulations. That is great, moksha.

I am not defending Trump. Your reading comprehension could use a lot of work. But, regarding your quote that you would like to have considered in full - Trump did not propose a bloodbath, liar. I am not defending Trump, I just prefer to deal with facts and common sense.
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Time for everyone to revise their conspiracy, their theory and their conspiracy theory.
NEW: Frank Luntz Warns CNN Seizing Donald Trump's Properties Will Backfire: "You Are Going to Elect Donald Trump"

"He’s going to go up in the polls just like he went up every single time they indicted him."

"If the New York Attorney General starts to take his homes away, starts to seize his assets, it's all going to be on camera, pundits are going to sit there and scream about this, and you're going to create the greatest victimhood of 2024."

"You are going to elect Donald Trump."

"Why is Donald Trump beating Joe Biden when he's got 85 indictments? Felonies? Trump is leading, and in the seven swing states, Trump is up by the margin of error in five out of seven; why is that happening?"

Luntz, who isn't a Trump supporter, realizes that the American people do not want to see their country turn into a banana republic.

Americans do not want to see the party in power imprisoning political adversaries and confiscating their assets, not for clear crimes like murder or bribery, but rather based on novel and dubious interpretations of the law.

If the legal system can be weaponized against a former president, what hope does an ordinary American citizen have?
I am not a Trump supporter. I am not a registered voter. I will NOT sanction elections that facilitate fraud by mailing out unsolicited ballots.

If anyone is stupid enough to think that seizing political opponents' assets based on the decision of a democrat DA and democrat judge will have a positive outcome - that believer is batshit effing crazy and stupid. It will make make democrats, McConnell and the Lincoln Project cream themselves, but that will require more detergent and water and energy to do the laundry. Not a good outcome for the environment.

I think that Leticia and this judge have sold out and they can't stop the train. This has gone too far and they can't fix it.
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Mayan_Elephant wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:34 am
"Trump is up by the margin of error in five out of seven; why is that happening?"
The same reason The Sopranos won Emmy Awards and was such a big hit. Criminals add a measure of excitement to the otherwise less exciting lives of law-abiding citizens. Same reason people used to attend book burnings and hangings. Ladies used to ask the Headsman to dip their handkerchiefs in the blood of the beheaded.
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moksha wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:06 am
Mayan_Elephant wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:34 am
"Trump is up by the margin of error in five out of seven; why is that happening?"
The same reason The Sopranos won Emmy Awards and was such a big hit. Criminals add a measure of excitement to the otherwise less exciting lives of law-abiding citizens. Same reason people used to attend book burnings and hangings. Ladies used to ask the Headsman to dip their handkerchiefs in the blood of the beheaded.
That is one hell of a conspiracy theory. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Russia and China are ramping up their campaign support for Trump in the 2024 election.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6d9nWEEiI

When these adverserial countries wish to harm America they realize the best way is to support Trump.
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Trump's hush money trial is ongoing, while the trial regarding his attempted coup to thwart the United States Constitution and become an unelected dictator is stalled while the Supreme Court considers the issue.
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moksha wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:55 pm Trump's hush money trial is ongoing, while the trial regarding his attempted coup to thwart the United States Constitution and become an unelected dictator is stalled while the Supreme Court considers the issue.
That the Supreme Court even took the case concerns me. They could have left it to the lower court's decision, as it was solid. It's going to be an interesting year, come what may.
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Trump's defense that a president cannot be held accountable for any actions is incredibly lazy and transparent. If he took two seconds to think about what he's saying he would see that it also applies to Biden, Obama, Clinton...
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The Trump-Fox News-MAGA coalition has sprung into action to begin juror intimidation in Trump's latest criminal trial. It has already resulted in one juror leaving. In the interim, it would be well for New York to issue a gag order on Jesse Watters from Fox. Wish this coalition was not such a lawless bunch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G3MybKXWsg


Can you imagine responding to a jury summons, answering questions in an impartial manner, being branded by a Fox Anchor as probably Trump unfriendly, and then being subject to unending death threats by crazed Trump followers?
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Judge Merchan has ruled that Trump violated his gag order 9 times and imposed a fine during his porn star hush money trial. He could go to jail for his next offenses and we know Trump will not be silent.

https://apnews.com/live/trump-trial-hush-money-day-9
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Trump complained that he is stuck in a courtroom, for hush money payments to a porn star, and is thus missing his wife's birthday. Family values, man.
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Eric Adams, the Mayor of NYC, says that the Rikers Island jail will be ready for Trump when he cannot resist and makes his 11th attack on the Hush Money Jury. Judge Merchan has his back against the wall and cannot let Trump skate after ten warnings.

It might be conceivable that Trump's base will load up their pickup trucks with mortars and munitions and seek retribution.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/art ... eric-adams
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U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has postponed the Trump purloined documents case indefinitely.
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moksha wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 3:47 pm U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon has postponed the Trump purloined documents case indefinitely.
Well that came as a complete shock :roll: . I didn't expect any different with Cannon as the judge. Donald is a worm who has been hooked. He is no idiot. He'll find a way to slither off that hook and go free. I had hoped he would face some consequence, but I would be surprised if it were to happen, at least not while he is alive. My hope is that he will be defeated in November.
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Atty - Mr. Cohen, you knew you worked for a dastardly criminal?

Micheal Cohen - Yes.

Atty - And yet you worked for him anyway?

Micheal Cohen - Yes.

Atty - I submit Your Honor that any man knowingly working for such an evil criminal is not to be believed.

Judge Merchan - You mean working for your client Mr. Trump?

Atty - Yes, Your Honor.
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Good news: Trump took down his Truth Social ad about wanting a Unified Reich. He was told there are things you can say to energize his base (references to Nazi Germany), but do not play well with the general American voters.
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House of Reps are enforcing a new rule that no house member can criticize DT. He can't be criticized for anything to do with his character, factual or not :shock: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXOG-BEw_Kc
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A claim by Donald Trump that FBI agents were authorized by the Department of Justice to shoot him when they appeared at Mar-a-Lago to retrieve stolen government documents left a former DOJ official stunned at the extent the former president will go to incite his followers.
The headline noted this was a whopper of a lie even by Trumpian standards.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... e89d&ei=11
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