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by Palerider
Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Righteous Corecion
Replies: 14
Views: 1518

Re: Righteous Corecion

Want to see coercion? I'll show you coercion.

This talk grows out of Elder Bedknob's talk on free agency which is a farce. This is what you end up with when the drivel rolls down hill.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iiknvBvVR ... xvcg%3D%3D
by Palerider
Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Purpose of the Book of Mormon
Replies: 7
Views: 534

Re: Purpose of the Book of Mormon

Stop it.....

You're being WAY to logical here. :)
by Palerider
Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Louisiana Requires Ten Commandments in Classrooms
Replies: 8
Views: 462

Re: Louisiana Requires Ten Commandments in Classrooms

If you want to respect the rule of law,” he said, “you’ve got to start from the original law giver, which was Moses. As I was reading along I thought for sure they were going to say, "from the original law giver, God." But no. Moses. Moses is good too... I guess. This was my thought as well. God is...
by Palerider
Fri May 31, 2024 8:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Respect
Replies: 10
Views: 973

Re: Respect

Most (maybe not all) male leaders are happy to be affable as long as you are looking at them with starry eyes and a bobble head gesture.
But ask too many difficult questions or disagree with what they say and you'll find out just how seriously they take themselves.
by Palerider
Sun May 19, 2024 1:18 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What happens to the Honest Mormon?
Replies: 7
Views: 907

Re: What happens to the Honest Mormon?

The interesting thing about the "Honest Mormon" is that there so few of them to be found. Honest Mormons have a short life span because by stating the truth, they force other less honest Mormons to deal with reality, burst their bubble and experience the pain of grappling with their own mendacity wh...
by Palerider
Fri May 03, 2024 7:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How to respond to believing spouse?
Replies: 28
Views: 2155

Re: How to respond to believing spouse?

This is the child's event, not the parents. Do what it takes to serve the child's interest, even down to skipping baptism if so chosen. D&C 68 42 "For all men must repent and be baptized, and not only men, but women, and children who have arrived at the years of accountability." D&C 18 25 "And agai...
by Palerider
Thu May 02, 2024 9:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How to respond to believing spouse?
Replies: 28
Views: 2155

Re: How to respond to believing spouse?

For anyone dealing with this "Stuck" situation I would highly recommend you watch this recent podcast from Mormon Stories. It truly shows the damage that comes from living an inauthentic life. But it also shows the peace and health that comes from having some courage. To live in fear is paralyzing a...
by Palerider
Wed May 01, 2024 8:18 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Psychics & Ballards
Replies: 7
Views: 648

Re: Psychics & Ballards

Women are taking some control of their lives by trying to find something that works for them better than the lame-ass priesthood of their husbands. You know, I should have asked them if a priesthood blessing had been attempted, but Mrs. Palerider is kicking me under the table enough as it is when I...
by Palerider
Wed May 01, 2024 7:13 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How to respond to believing spouse?
Replies: 28
Views: 2155

Re: How to respond to believing spouse?

In 10 years it may all be meaningless because the church is beginning to falter. Or..... On the other hand, in 10 years (if it doesn't collapse) the church will use your son's baptism as a bludgeon to guilt him into serving a mission and further enslave himself to the Corp via temple covenants. And ...
by Palerider
Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Psychics & Ballards
Replies: 7
Views: 648

Re: Psychics & Ballards

We have Mormon friends here who have a Mormon "seeing holistic healer" who, over the phone, diagnosed the herbal deficiency that was causing the wife's hip problem from 110 miles away. "She's amazing", said the wife. 8 months later she finally went in and had her arthritic hip replaced..... She's mu...
by Palerider
Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Today was a hard day !
Replies: 20
Views: 1942

Re: Today was a hard day !

Conman,

The psychological toll here must be terribly draining. Is this really better than outing one's self as a nonbeliever?

Does your own psychological/emotional health count for nothing in order to make everyone else happy?

You obviously love those around you more than they love you.
by Palerider
Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temples, temples everywhere...
Replies: 8
Views: 1724

Re: Temples, temples everywhere...

Where’s the down side? Well, if there really is a God as they claim, and he really cares about the poor, as the NT claims, they could be in trouble when they die. But that’s a bunch of “ifs” and ironic that they are more in trouble if they are right about what they teach. That's the great thing abo...
by Palerider
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temples, temples everywhere...
Replies: 8
Views: 1724

Re: Temples, temples everywhere...

Attention future presidents: If you don't bring this mania to a screeching halt soon you will have a thousand temples waiting in the wings despite a membership that is actually shrinking. It's insanity. Just read recently that the church is too heavy on the money side and they need to use a bunch o...
by Palerider
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Spaulding Theory?
Replies: 7
Views: 1228

Re: New Spaulding Theory?

I saw this a couple of days ago and tried to post a link on this site. Unfortunately I couldn't access the NOM site. What's up with that?

Anyway I think Lars has found at the very least, a plausible or credible origin for the BoM and possibly a smoking gun.
by Palerider
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Resignation help
Replies: 4
Views: 751

Re: Resignation help

Thanks Hagoth!

We'll see where this goes.
by Palerider
Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood DoorDash
Replies: 3
Views: 768

Re: Priesthood DoorDash

I've had them call and ask me to speak in sacrament meeting and had them send the missionaries even when I've asked them nicely but firmly not to. The resignation letter was the only thing that seemed to break through the "I'm doing this for your own good" determination that envelopes the minds of m...
by Palerider
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Resignation help
Replies: 4
Views: 751

Resignation help

Any truth to the rumor that a member can now resign electronically on the church's website or some such?

My dear wife is getting ready to pull the trigger. 8-)
by Palerider
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The new throat-slitting
Replies: 8
Views: 1315

Re: The new throat-slitting

True, you swear before God and Angels, but it is to Russell M. Nelson and Co. that you really pledge your life and allegiance. Am I wrong about this? You are not wrong. If you go back and listen to Rusty's closing talk, he makes a statement regarding "making covenants with God AND YOUR LEADERS." I ...
by Palerider
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Best part of conference?
Replies: 10
Views: 1750

Re: Best part of conference?

I was a little surprised to hear Nelson state that baptism will get you into the Celestial Kingdom but only temple covenants and marriage would get you "Exaltation" within the Celestial Kingdom.

I've never read that baptism alone, would get you into the CK.