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by Palerider
Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 544

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

Hagoth wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:48 pm
I can't imagine anything more exhausting than trying to be an actual scholar while working for people who care nothing about actual scholarship because they are really in the business of disseminating propaganda.
....and making money.
by Palerider
Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 544

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

And finally: 2123: Official church AI algorithms disavow any uncomfortable doctrine of the past, and declare that all COJCOLDS biological units are ordered to offer up 50% of their cryptocurrency at any of the 5,000 casino structures that were once erroneously misidentified as temples. Obedience wi...
by Palerider
Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 544

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

Well yeah, but: Related to the original topic of this post... If the "Great Apostasy" never happened, what is there to 'restore'? The thing that's left to restore is the members' poor understanding of what has been taught specifically by leadership for the past hundred years. So even though it's be...
by Palerider
Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can there be an Alma?
Replies: 9
Views: 263

Re: Can there be an Alma?

I always thought the Corianton story was awfully accommodating. Just try going out and shagging a "bad girl" while on your mission now and see if you get a tough reprimand and then get sent back into the mission field..... I asked my mission president about Corianton and he just said, "Well, Alma wa...
by Palerider
Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sacrament Meetings & My Ramblings
Replies: 2
Views: 127

Re: Sacrament Meetings & My Ramblings

I once read an article by Daniel Peterson the apologist. He was going on about how unfair all the criticism of the church was and then he said, "WE didn't start this fight but we're going to finish it and protect ourselves", something to that effect. I thought what a disingenuous dope. You send out ...
by Palerider
Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 544

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

“We're witnesses to a process of restoration,” said the prophet. “If you think the Church has been fully restored, you're just seeing the beginning. There is much more to come. … Wait till next year. And then the next year. Eat your vitamin pills. Get your rest. It's going to be exciting.” The Ongo...
by Palerider
Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 544

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

Sooooo.... what about the two main churches mentioned in the BoM? One was the church of the Devil and the other the restored church. How does that work???? :|
by Palerider
Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Thoughts on priesthood blessings and feeling the spirit meaning the church is true
Replies: 23
Views: 561

Re: Thoughts on priesthood blessings and feeling the spirit meaning the church is true

If we think in terms of Heavenly Father and the Savior watching over their children here on earth, we should ask ourselves, how many would be blessed or cared for if God said, "Oh I can't give you a blessing because you're not in the right church. I only give blessings to my children through properl...
by Palerider
Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Woman riles up Sarasota Springs Priesthood
Replies: 6
Views: 414

Re: Woman riles up Sarasota Springs Priesthood

If I'm not mistaken the actual article says "Boys will be boys". Am I wrong there?
by Palerider
Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Murdered Utah family
Replies: 4
Views: 260

Murdered Utah family

I'd be very interested to know if anyone here has or will have insights as to the killing of this LDS family by their father. What I have read so far indicates that the wife/mother had just recently filed for divorce. I know you Utah people are more tuned into the LDS grapevine. Any chance this whol...
by Palerider
Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Lusting for Mary
Replies: 4
Views: 270

Lusting for Mary

I'm quite certain the church has saved millions of young men from lusting over Mary. Thank heaven we don't have to deal with porn shoulders in the church publications. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mormon-church-condemned-for-photoshopping-painting-of-virgin-mary-to-cover-her-bust-and-shoulders/...
by Palerider
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Hypocrisy
Replies: 7
Views: 405

Re: Hypocrisy

Even though the above article comes down on the "stay faithful" side of the argument, it also makes clear there is no place for condemnation or judging of the individual who takes a different path than that sought for by the church. If anything those who "judge" should be saying, "I don't blame you....
by Palerider
Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Hypocrisy
Replies: 7
Views: 405

Re: Hypocrisy

You have my deepest sympathies. I'm going through something similar with my elderly TBM in-laws that are living with us right now. :roll: You might consider sending this article from "LDS Living" to your relatives. It was written by Patrick Mason, who according to John Dehlin, has admitted that he t...
by Palerider
Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Merry Christmas to all my Nomies
Replies: 9
Views: 313

Re: Merry Christmas to all my Nomies

Thank you and merry Christmas to you as well.
by Palerider
Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Institutional narcissism and child abuse
Replies: 6
Views: 303

Institutional narcissism and child abuse

See any similarities? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/catholic-collective-narcissism-linked-to-acceptance-of-myths-about-child-sexual-abuse/ar-AA158lOE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9536df1f66b9407d90d980ca79016b47 “Even though sexual relations between priests and minors have taken place inside th...
by Palerider
Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does belief equal stupidity?
Replies: 31
Views: 1305

Re: Does belief equal stupidity?

So, let’s not be as bad in our unbelief as we are accusing religious people of being. Anti religion can become a belief system that is as bad as any religion. When we start in with generalizations that believers are stupid, close minded, and arrogant, then our unbelief is getting to the point that ...
by Palerider
Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:20 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Does belief equal stupidity?
Replies: 31
Views: 1305

Re: Does belief equal stupidity?

I like that description that stupid people are more dangerous than the malevolent, though maybe "stupid" isn't a great adjective. I suspect there is a positive correlation between that type of person and poorer scores on an intelligence test, but I wouldn't guess the correlation is very strong. I s...
by Palerider
Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does belief equal stupidity?
Replies: 31
Views: 1305

Re: Does belief equal stupidity?

From Dietrich Bonhoeffer: "Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sen...
by Palerider
Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Apostle complaint
Replies: 5
Views: 411

Re: Apostle complaint

That's the one!

Thank you all for your help. Much appreciated.
:)
by Palerider
Sun Oct 02, 2022 5:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Apostle complaint
Replies: 5
Views: 411

Apostle complaint

Hey kids,

I'm trying to remember which early apostle complained about the missionaries grabbing all the pretty convert women before they got to Salt Lake City, leaving him with only the homely ones to choose from.

Anybody out there who can help me find his quote?