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by Palerider
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Toilet cleaning robot
Replies: 6
Views: 144

Re: Toilet cleaning robot

Hagoth wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:52 pm
Imagine how many temple endowments this robot could do in a 24-hour period.
Proxy work done by proxies!

Who'dah thunk it.....
by Palerider
Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Debate night live thread!!!!!!
Replies: 114
Views: 2212

Re: Debate night live thread!!!!!!

Hagoth wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 2:26 pm
I exchanged email with a couple of the main people at FAIR. They think these guys are the secret sauce to keep young people from bailing out of the Good Ship Zion.
That's scary.....

That FAIR could be that desperate. They must be aware that they're losing this battle badly.
by Palerider
Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock (EDIT: AVERSION) Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU
Replies: 29
Views: 766

Re: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU

How much difference we would feel about him if he said something like, "Yes, I regret that happened under my watch. With the benefit of hindsight and further knowledge, we understand that type of therapy is ineffective and unethical, though at that time, researchers were sincerely searching for an ...
by Palerider
Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families Floating in Hereafter
Replies: 16
Views: 887

Re: Families Floating in Hereafter

To me the answer is simple-forever familes is a powerful message and being in control of that eternal family gives the church all the power. If you want to be together after this life, pay tithing, be a good Mormon. Spiritual coercion at it's finest.... And this is the same spiritual arm twisting J...
by Palerider
Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families Floating in Hereafter
Replies: 16
Views: 887

Re: Families Floating in Hereafter

Joseph did say this about sealings. March 11, 1844: "Joseph /W.W. Journal: Again the doctrine or sealing power of Elijah is as follows: if you have power to seal on earth & in heaven then we should be crafty. (changed to wise in HC:6, p. 253) The first thing you do go & seal on earth your sons & yo...
by Palerider
Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families Floating in Hereafter
Replies: 16
Views: 887

Re: Families Floating in Hereafter

Trying to remember. I think I read the extract of the diary here on nom about the young lady invited to Nauvoo to visit her relatives for a few months.

Wrote down her impressions of Joseph.

A good synopsis would be that she thought he was a crafty, bloviating, overgrown ego.

Pretty astute I think.
by Palerider
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lift a glass to Kerry Shirts!
Replies: 5
Views: 289

Re: Lift a glass to Kerry Shirts!

A little off topic but Boyd had enough ego to fancy himself an artist, not knowing that anyone with a fair eye and a good photo of a bird (which he apparently loved) can copy that photo in another medium and make it turn out with some practice. What I'd really love to have seen would have been Boyd'...
by Palerider
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock (EDIT: AVERSION) Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU
Replies: 29
Views: 766

Re: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU

I try to give these guys some benefit of the doubt because I don’t see how they can possibly be such blatant liars.... I know. And what's worse are the implications of encouraging others to lie as well, as described above. How many GA's, member/employees at the COB are spiritually coerced into shad...
by Palerider
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock (EDIT: AVERSION) Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU
Replies: 29
Views: 766

Re: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU

Hagoth wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:53 am
Palerider wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:26 am
Am I reading this wrong? Why would the Corp call someone to be a GA who has the shadow of being a liar and manipulator hanging over them?
Maybe you should ask Quentin Cook for an explanation?
Right! :D
by Palerider
Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lift a glass to Kerry Shirts!
Replies: 5
Views: 289

Re: Lift a glass to Kerry Shirts!

Having listened to part of Kerry's presentation, I have to address this issue again. :| This idea that the church didn't control how Joseph was depicted during the translation of the BoM is absolutely ludicrous. For the MM's to suggest it shows a complete ignorance of the process of how the church h...
by Palerider
Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock (EDIT: AVERSION) Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU
Replies: 29
Views: 766

Re: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU

As we learned from a recent ex-POTUS, if you say what you want your devotees to believe, that becomes the truth. Anyone who opposes them is, by default, lying. Oh, absolutely. "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."...
by Palerider
Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:33 am
Forum: Support
Topic: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock (EDIT: AVERSION) Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU
Replies: 29
Views: 766

Re: DHO's Attempted Gaslighting of Electroshock Therapy On Gay Individuals At BYU

From the article: "There are two ways to think about Oaks’ answer last week, said Chloe Fife, a third-year law student at Virginia who is from St. George and was present at the Q&A session. “Either he didn’t know it was happening, which is disappointing,” Fife said Monday, “or what he said was untru...
by Palerider
Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Debate night live thread!!!!!!
Replies: 114
Views: 2212

Re: Debate night live thread!!!!!!

To the idea of having to replace one faith with another: Let's look at that from a different angle. Cars. Make it much easier. If you're walking along and you see someone drive into the parking lot with a flat tire that they haven't noticed, you tell them they have a flat tire. Only an idiot would ...
by Palerider
Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families Floating in Hereafter
Replies: 16
Views: 887

Re: Families Floating in Hereafter

I find this quote interesting: Joseph used to say that he would have her (Emma Smith) hereafter, IF HE HAD TO GO TO HELL FOR HER, AND HE WILL HAVE TO GO TO HELL FOR HER AS SURE AS HE EVER GETS HER." Brigham Young. (Journal of Discourses, Volume 17, page 159) Maybe if you are a prophet God gives you...
by Palerider
Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Saint Augustine and the post-Mormon experience
Replies: 6
Views: 505

Re: Saint Augustine and the post-Mormon experience

Then I was invited in to see the bishop not long ago because my temple recommend had expired. I had to explain that I had lost my faith and didn't want to renew it. Also, I didn't really want any callings more or less. How did he react? Well, he said that he now knows where to put up the guard rail...
by Palerider
Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why are temples going Moroni-less ?
Replies: 14
Views: 736

Re: Why are temples going Moroni-less ?

Why doesn’t the church put a statue of Christ on top of temples instead of Moroni? Because that would be like the Catholics worshipping statues as idols. We're not like those bad Catholics. When we do it with Moroni it's a totally different thing. It's righteous. Just ask anybody. If we were to put...
by Palerider
Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why are temples going Moroni-less ?
Replies: 14
Views: 736

Re: Why are temples going Moroni-less ?

:lol: @ Red's list. Regarding #10 - We have been informed that a member of the 12 will be visiting our area, but that no general membership meetings are planned. He'll have only one meeting with Stake presidencies, bishops (not bishoprics, just bishops), I'll keep you posted as I am able. This woul...
by Palerider
Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Dulce et Decorum est
Replies: 3
Views: 396

Re: Dulce et Decorum est

Heaping glory on those who suffered unspeakable pain unnecessarily by way of sheer arrogance and incompetence of their leaders, is the only way that cowards who are far removed from that pain, can mitigate their own approval of continuing the insanity. To tell the truth would be an act of courage th...
by Palerider
Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why are temples going Moroni-less ?
Replies: 14
Views: 736

Re: Why are temples going Moroni-less ?

dogbite wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:51 pm
To make the temples more mainstream. Moroni on top tells people that's who we worship.

This.

Give them another 15-20 years and all of the old "Moroni's" will be quietly removed.
by Palerider
Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: I'm just angry tonight.
Replies: 10
Views: 603

Re: I'm just angry tonight.

Ziontology! :lol: We are the church run by business men. No one in leadership was ever trained on how to care for people. And it shows... They don't want to actually have to care for individuals. It's a little beneath them in reality. They don't want to wrestle with real problems. Their job is to d...