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by Palerider
Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: You know you're in a cult when...
Replies: 9
Views: 118

Re: You know you're in a cult when...

You know you're in a cult when: 1. Your TBM son comes elk hunting with you but restricts the conversation to only hunting. No talking about the "church". 2: The "church" attempts to tamp down the reading of material outside of the correlated literature. 3. "Church" leadership claim to be the one and...
by Palerider
Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:55 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news
Replies: 14
Views: 394

Re: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news

I find it extremely difficult to believe that some idiots out there could believe they could do this and still maintain that they aren't being immoral.

But then Mormonism lends itself to rationalization like no other religion....🤔
by Palerider
Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Identity
Replies: 8
Views: 269

Re: Identity

I'm close to Alas here. If it comes up, I usually say I was raised Mormon but I left the church a number of years ago. I'm still a Christian now. Then if they want to know more, I'm happy to engage, but I don't push it. As Alas said, most people have a relatively positive impression of Mormons. Howe...
by Palerider
Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Binding God
Replies: 8
Views: 274

Re: Binding God

There is a lot to consider in this topic. First, almost all of Joseph Smith's ideas come from the Bible..... …that binding signified, and was commonly understood by the Jews at that time to be, a declaration that any thing was unlawful to be done; and loosing signified, on the contrary, a declarati...
by Palerider
Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Progressive Mormon Debate
Replies: 10
Views: 319

Re: The Progressive Mormon Debate

This sort of reminds me of how young high schoolers go through life. They have issues that they don't know how to deal with and they don't think adults will understand so they end up asking their peers for advice.....who are just as inexperienced and naive as they are. They are the last people they ...
by Palerider
Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temple changes
Replies: 22
Views: 973

Re: Temple changes

This concept of "binding" is not doctrinal in my opinion. In fact, it's occult language that was familiar to Joseph Smith. Here's his family's St. Peter Bind Them parchment from their treasure digging, ghost wrangling days. Binding is about using magic to compel spirits to do your bidding. https://...
by Palerider
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temple changes
Replies: 22
Views: 973

Re: Temple changes

As I listened to conference this time, I heard multiple times (probably from Bednar and Nelson the most) that it's critical to "bind" ourselves to Christ through the temple ordinances. This concept of "binding" is not doctrinal in my opinion. As a matter of fact I think it's a corruption of the true...
by Palerider
Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: what sins are worse than extra-martial sex?
Replies: 8
Views: 345

Re: what sins are worse than extra-martial sex?

If we think in terms of how the Savior treated the woman caught in adultery as opposed to the way he lambasted the Pharisees who neglected and abused the poor, putting themselves forward as righteous..... I'm not in a position to say which sin is greater. Or if it really matters in this particular s...
by Palerider
Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bednar debacle
Replies: 15
Views: 758

Re: Bednar debacle

blazerb wrote:
Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:26 pm
The way he treats people is abhorrent.
Maybe it would actually be a good thing to have him as prophet. The true face of Mormonism finally revealed. 🤔
by Palerider
Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gen. Doniphan and Disobedience and Integrity
Replies: 3
Views: 234

Re: Gen. Doniphan and Disobedience and Integrity

It pains me that I don't remember the name of one brother in particular, who was in the meeting with Wells and others when the attack was planned on the Fancher wagon train, but he spoke against it and told them he thought they should wait until they could receive a more direct approval from Brigham...
by Palerider
Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is there any way to find out who the last living polygamist church leader was?
Replies: 8
Views: 342

Re: Is there any way to find out who the last living polygamist church leader was?

Can't remember what his name was. You could find it with a little research, but either Harold B. Lee or Spencer W. Kimball were called as apostles to replace an apostle who was exed for "adultery". I believe in reality he was just hiding a plural wife and the "Brethren" didn't want it advertised as ...
by Palerider
Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bednar debacle
Replies: 15
Views: 758

Bednar debacle

Bednar's talk was....what can I say.....just STUPID. It made me wonder if these guys really have any true understanding of the scriptures. He starts out being so vague about what this divorced sister wanted. "Justice and accountability". Well, exactly in what aspect? Did she want child support? Did ...
by Palerider
Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sat morning Fall 2021
Replies: 108
Views: 1825

Re: NOMference Sat morning Fall 2021

alas wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:19 am
When President Nelson said that what we hear in conference will be 100% pure truth, my TBM husband quips, “Oaks isn’t speaking?”
He falsified that just by stating it. 🤪🤪

I wonder what would prompt someone to say something like that.....🤔
by Palerider
Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pep talk or Prophecy?
Replies: 7
Views: 484

Re: Pep talk or Prophecy?

blazerb wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:55 pm
JS said things to keep his followers excited about following him. The current leadership tries to ignore it. They say things to guilt people into following them. Both strategies are corrupt.
Ohhh.....there.....that feels much better.
by Palerider
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Resurrection
Replies: 3
Views: 250

Re: Resurrection

Different here on NOM?

Or different in your life?
by Palerider
Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Tithing
Replies: 17
Views: 745

Re: Tithing

Mrs. Palerider and I have set up a college scholarship fund at our local community college. It has specific criteria to meet. Namely that the receiving individual must be an impoverished single parent with small children, trying to educate themselves so that they can take care of their family. Ther...
by Palerider
Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Tithing
Replies: 17
Views: 745

Re: Tithing

Mrs. Palerider and I have set up a college scholarship fund at our local community college. It has specific criteria to meet. Namely that the receiving individual must be an impoverished single parent with small children, trying to educate themselves so that they can take care of their family. There...
by Palerider
Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 33
Views: 1228

Re: General Konference Predictions

I'm predicting that 6 old guys social distancing with masks in an improvised television studio is going to continue to reduce the juice these guys exert over the members. It has a psychological effect to see thousands of people fawning over these guys in their King Noah chairs, waving to the crowd.....
by Palerider
Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: For discouraged Mormons
Replies: 2
Views: 220

For discouraged Mormons

I've been thinking lately about the concept of "luck" and "preparation" and how the two interact. To complicate things, I added into the mix the Mormon version of how we "obtain" blessings and all of the promises that accompany those teachings. Follow the prophet and you will be blessed. Keep the Wo...
by Palerider
Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Physical tools for revelation
Replies: 5
Views: 276

Re: Physical tools for revelation

moksha wrote:
Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:47 pm
President Nelson has late at night revelations, so maybe he keeps a polished banded iron jasperite under his pillow. I imagine he allows Wendy to handle it from time to time.
Wendy to Rusty:

C'mon Russy, you know it won't work without the white top hat......"
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