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by græy
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Rasband's Face-to-Face
Replies: 21
Views: 640

Re: Rasband's Face-to-Face

Maybe what he was trying to say was applying “why not commit suicide” to “why stay in the church”. I used to give my depressed clients that kind of answer to why not kill yourself. Well because one year from now you will be glad you are still here. But the answer for the church DOES NOT WORK. You g...
by græy
Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Rasband's Face-to-Face
Replies: 21
Views: 640

Re: Rasband's Face-to-Face

I've come to the conclusion that faith and religious belief - no matter what the specific faith denomination - are based almost entirely on emotion. Those who are comfortable with emotion as a basis for belief are much less affected by shaky truth claims and strange, unsupportable history. Those th...
by græy
Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Rasband's Face-to-Face
Replies: 21
Views: 640

Rasband's Face-to-Face

At the recent Face-to-Face with Elder/Sister Rasband, a rare gem of a question was asked. A youth speaker, Harry, questioned: I have serious problems with the truth claims of the church and am considering removing my name from the records of the church. Can you give me a reason why I should stay? El...
by græy
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 6 months...
Replies: 17
Views: 724

Re: 6 months...

However, I’m not so sure it’s reduced the spousehold anxiety as family home church has replaced physical worship. Sister R likes to participate with her family gathering which is ok because it’s pretty informal. My family doesn’t dress up or anything like that even though everyone else does. Howeve...
by græy
Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Cook defends Brigham Young Racism
Replies: 6
Views: 342

Re: Elder Cook defends Brigham Young Racism

Not Buying It wrote:
Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:26 am
not as sheep-in-wolves-clothing phony as President Uchtdorf
I agree with your whole post. But this in particular made me laugh. :)
by græy
Fri Aug 28, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Just a reminder - you are better off without "Families are Forever"
Replies: 9
Views: 358

Re: Just a reminder - you are better off without "Families are Forever"

Fully agree! When other friends/families have left the church my DW's comments usually went along the lines of "Don't they know what they're throwing away!??" and "How can they give up on being with their children forever!?" It took multiple families leaving, a lot of conversation, and some tears be...
by græy
Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Mr. and Mrs. Græy's Stuff
Replies: 62
Views: 12463

Re: Mr. and Mrs. Græy's Stuff

I was a founding listener to the Marriage on a Tightrope podcast. After the first few episodes I invited DW to listen as well, and to my surprise, she did. After the first 10 or so episodes she started to pull back a bit and now generally only listens to new episodes when I specifically recommend on...
by græy
Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Really frustrated lately...
Replies: 21
Views: 1111

Re: Really frustrated lately...

I haven't been looking at the Mixed Faith Relationship posts recently, I'm sorry I've missed so much of the conversation here. I'm also sorry that this is so hard. I'm somewhat lucky in that my wife's parents are somewhat science-literate and she has grown up with the mindset of trusting science. I ...
by græy
Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dan Peterson Lying as a Favor to John Gee
Replies: 4
Views: 231

Re: Dan Peterson Lying as a Favor to John Gee

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... raham.html In the comments section of his apologetic article here, Peterson baldly declares that Gee and Muhlstein's Egyptology views are mainstream!!!! He literally says that..... Well, why can't we find any mainstream Egyptologists lecturing with them o...
by græy
Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Swinger’s here we come!
Replies: 20
Views: 1232

Re: Swinger’s here we come!

Haha! I had no idea swinging was the final result of this pathway.

I took a bunch of those steps out of order, and often two at a time.
by græy
Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Life Back in 1971
Replies: 4
Views: 390

Re: Church Life Back in 1971

2bizE wrote:
Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:38 pm
What a story...it would make a great movie staring Denzel Washington...
Remember the Titans, but no happy ending.
by græy
Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Information on Lori Vallow case.
Replies: 38
Views: 4292

Re: New Information on Lori Vallow case.

Welp. No Jesus sightings in my vicinity... No man knoweth the hour. He could be waiting until after rush hour. Well... Unfortunately for Chad, the 24 hours for his prediction have come and gone. It isn't July 22nd anywhere on this planet any more. I guess the voices in Chad's head could be telling ...
by græy
Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: My eyes are opened !!!!
Replies: 6
Views: 395

Re: My eyes are opened !!!!

2bizE wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:11 pm
I think a chip telling me how often I had sex could be useful.
Me: see here mrs. 2 bizE, it says we had sex 3 times in the last 6 months.
Mrs. 2bizE: I see that, if you need to cut back more I can probably accommodate...
I laughed. :lol: I related. :| I cried. :cry:
by græy
Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: My 8 year old brought up Adam and Eve... it's so awkward.
Replies: 7
Views: 342

Re: My 8 year old brought up Adam and Eve... it's so awkward.

Have any of you had to deal with that at all? I feel like this is Santa but in a very meaningful way... and we still need to have the Santa talk with him later this year! I struggle with this too. Our kids range from 3 to 10. DW enforces scripture study every night. Sometimes we will use a Latter D...
by græy
Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The temple endowment ceremony is changing.... again...
Replies: 33
Views: 1338

Re: The temple endowment ceremony is changing.... again...

My favorite part of the announcement... "...Given the sacredness of the temple ceremonies, we ask our members and friends not to engage in speculation or public discussions about these changes. Rather, we invite Church members to continue to look forward to the day when they may return and fully par...
by græy
Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: DW Back To Church
Replies: 25
Views: 1760

Re: DW Back To Church

Four days after our ward's first sacrament meeting, an older couple who attended the meeting tested positive for COVID-19. Now, three days after the test results were received the ward council is just being made aware of the situation. Several WC members immediately pointed out that other sacrament ...
by græy
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why will you stay or comeback ?
Replies: 22
Views: 891

Re: Why will you stay or comeback ?

moksha wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:46 am
I'm off to cataract surgery in a few minutes. Can't stay, but I hope I come back.
We hope you come back too! Good luck! Does this mean you'll start seeing visions?
by græy
Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: DW Back To Church
Replies: 25
Views: 1760

Re: DW Back To Church

Our ward had their first back-to-church day yesterday. My family did not go. I did receive reports though that about 30 people attended (usual sacrament attendance of ~140). Within the attendees there were infants, elderly, and at least one family who are known to have had direct physical contact w...
by græy
Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: DW Back To Church
Replies: 25
Views: 1760

Re: DW Back To Church

Our ward had their first back-to-church day yesterday. My family did not go. I did receive reports though that about 30 people attended (usual sacrament attendance of ~140). Within the attendees there were infants, elderly, and at least one family who are known to have had direct physical contact wi...
by græy
Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: DW Back To Church
Replies: 25
Views: 1760

Re: DW Back To Church

She went from 2 Saturdays to none in one fell swoop and she is not looking forward to it. Man, if both you and I could get our respective missuses to think about WHY they aren't excited to go back, then further critical thinking about a host of other things could start to take place. That's the hop...