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by Hagoth
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My New Study on the Sacrament Theme in Mythological History
Replies: 3
Views: 83

Re: My New Study on the Sacrament Theme in Mythological History

Interesting stuff, Kerry. I'm curious to see if you will take into account the significance of sacramental substances like kykeon in the Eleusinian Mysteries and other entheogens extending well into the Christian era.
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormon Stories Interviews RFM
Replies: 5
Views: 238

Re: Mormon Stories Interviews RFM

Still waiting for the podcast. I get most of my podcast listening done on my bike or on the bus.
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Tribalism and the Internet
Replies: 4
Views: 157

Re: Tribalism and the Internet

Like so many things, virtual tribes can be taken too far, especially if they become a complete retreat from reality. But, just like some things that are condemned by the Word of Wisdom, if used responsibly they can be a healthy respite from the sh!tstorm of daily pressures.
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Atlantis More Probable Than the Nephites - Seriously
Replies: 6
Views: 262

Re: Atlantis More Probable Than the Nephites - Seriously

2/3 of the way through. He brings up some really fascinating sites and does a great job of summarizing their significance. The stuff about the maps is fascinating and I would like to look into it more. I would, however, just like to point out how often he says things like "I'm certain we'd see that ...
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Atlantis More Probable Than the Nephites - Seriously
Replies: 6
Views: 262

Re: Atlantis More Probable Than the Nephites - Seriously

I dunno guys, I'm about a half hour into America Before and I already feel like I'm getting the ol' apologist routine of drawing lines through unrelated points, and a couple of downright contradictions. I was going to mention a couple, but I don't want to start a debate. I'll keep watching and I hop...
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Outward expression
Replies: 11
Views: 280

Re: Outward expression

I remember someone on NOM talking about how easy it is to spot Mormons at Disneyland. They're the only people who wear a t-shirt under their t-shirt on a hot day. I think the church's insistence that you promise to wear garments while doing yardwork is just about the most telling thing about the rel...
by Hagoth
Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Explaining Miracles
Replies: 8
Views: 324

Re: Explaining Miracles

As far as jokes that are actually in the Bible go (aside from the talking ass, of course - that's a cheap laugh), my favorite was when Yahweh appeared to Moses and showed him his butt instead of his face. I take it as a prescient message about how seriously to take the stuff that Moses would come up...
by Hagoth
Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:16 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Tithing settlement
Replies: 42
Views: 1174

Re: Tithing settlement

Our balance paid to the church in tithing this year is zero. When the bishop asked I shook my head (side-to-side as in "no") but said "yes." Bishop: "What do you mean by that?" Me: "I mean that I'm a retired part-time student and I don't have an income anymore, so I have paid 10% of zero." Mrs. Hago...
by Hagoth
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Loyal Christian's hanging onto mormonism
Replies: 13
Views: 385

Re: Loyal Christian's hanging onto mormonism

I have noticed over the years that some Mormons, in talks and testimonies, speak ONLY about Joseph Smith, the current PS&R and the Book of Mormon, and NEVER about Jesus, while a small subset ALWAYS talk about Jesus and NEVER talk about the Mormon-exclusive stuff. This leads me to believe that there ...
by Hagoth
Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New message about choosing to believe
Replies: 23
Views: 833

Re: New message about choosing to believe

deacon blues wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:19 pm
Whatever happened to humbly seeking truth, and following where it leads?
Great question. I suppose the answer is: BECAUSE of where it leads.

p.s. I woke up with Steely Dan playing in my head and thought of you.
by Hagoth
Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New message about choosing to believe
Replies: 23
Views: 833

Re: New message about choosing to believe

Palerider wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:11 pm
I'd wager if someone really wanted to delve into it, this is what they would find.
Too bad they don't use his name. We could see if he has an IMDB page.
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Explaining Miracles
Replies: 8
Views: 324

Re: Explaining Miracles

I heard that 500 people watched a resurrected guy fly up into heaven. I know it's true because one guy, who wasn't there at the time, wrote it down a few decades later.

I understand there were actually more than 500 (oddly round number) people there but, you know, falafel.
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New message about choosing to believe
Replies: 23
Views: 833

New message about choosing to believe

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/inspiration/latter-day-saints-channel/watch/series/his-grace/his-grace-choosing-to-believe-in-god?lang=eng&cid=email-IN_110319_CTA2a This video equates questioning with darkness and switching off your brain with letting the light come back in. The bigger problem,...
by Hagoth
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Roll Red Roll, Joseph Smith, and looking the other way
Replies: 6
Views: 269

Re: Roll Red Roll, Joseph Smith, and looking the other way

Sometimes I get the feeling that it's a bigger sin to call Joseph Smith a predator than for Joseph Smith to BE a predator.
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lila Tueller Interview
Replies: 12
Views: 683

Re: Lila Tueller Interview

I'm halfway through and so far this interview is fascinating. A couple of things were really interesting to me. First that Rector's talks from the podium about the importance of being kind, not just following the rules, were aimed at the men sitting behind him. Second was Lila's observation that man...
by Hagoth
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What if....
Replies: 19
Views: 535

Re: What if....

What if the papyri actually contained the Book of Abraham, written by his own hand?
by Hagoth
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Patrick Mason and the collapse of apologetics
Replies: 17
Views: 713

Re: Patrick Mason and the collapse of apologetics

Not only won't they debate, they won't even engage directly with members of their own church on hard questions, or even publish answers under their own names. They are so absolutely terrified of letting people see how utterly uninformed and helpless they are. All they have is their image and they're...
by Hagoth
Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Paul Selig and channeled texts
Replies: 1
Views: 133

Paul Selig and channeled texts

This morning I heard an interview on the radio with a guy named Paul Selig who claims to channel spirits. He dictates exactly what they are saying to him and it is written down into books that are produced entirely by dictation and published without needing any editing. This guy seems very reasonabl...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Patrick Mason and the collapse of apologetics
Replies: 17
Views: 713

Re: Patrick Mason and the collapse of apologetics

What apologetics say, or don't say, admit or don't admit, ultimately doesn't matter. We are at a point in this church where even what general authorities say or don't say, and even what an apostle says or doesn't say, doesn't matter. If it isn't taught consistently, by all 15 of the 12 apostles, fo...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Patrick Mason and the collapse of apologetics
Replies: 17
Views: 713

Re: Patrick Mason and the collapse of apologetics

What apologetics say, or don't say, admit or don't admit, ultimately doesn't matter. We are at a point in this church where even what general authorities say or don't say, and even what an apostle says or doesn't say, doesn't matter. If it isn't taught consistently, by all 15 of the 12 apostles, fo...