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by Hagoth
Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: War in Heaven: The 3rd Party
Replies: 4
Views: 1300

War in Heaven: The 3rd Party

Lucifer: Proposal: We all love each other and our Father. We all want to spend eternity together as a family. For whatever reason, we need physical bodies. I propose we go to earth, get our bodies and follow the rules without the choice to do wrong. It won't be difficult because there will be no ...
by Hagoth
Sat Aug 23, 2025 3:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Biggest changes in the church in your lifetime
Replies: 7
Views: 1690

Re: Biggest changes in the church in your lifetime

Priesthood Ban. Then: God has spoken: Book of Moses, Book of Abraham, 1852, 1947, 1971. Now: Might have been Joseph, Brigham, George Albert Smith, Harold B. Lee, and others following society and its traditions. I could spend hours discussing this. Oh man, how did I overlook that one?
by Hagoth
Tue Aug 19, 2025 9:42 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Biggest changes in the church in your lifetime
Replies: 7
Views: 1690

Biggest changes in the church in your lifetime

Here are some things I was actually taught in church when I was young, vs. what the church says about them today. Hmm. Temples: Then: The endowment was an immutable revelation from God. Denial of origins in Masonry. Masonry was actually a degenerate imitation of the true endowment of the Temple of ...
by Hagoth
Tue Aug 12, 2025 8:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood Power
Replies: 4
Views: 20311

Re: Priesthood Power

OK, here's another thing that kind of disturbed me. I served a mission in the Deep South in the late '70s. I arrived full of faith in my amazing priesthood power and a head full of latter-day miracles stories (non of which I had actually witnessed). We used to tract door-to-door a lot in those days ...
by Hagoth
Mon Aug 11, 2025 7:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Make Lying Un-American.... Again?
Replies: 7
Views: 22303

Re: Make Lying Un-American.... Again?

Just a reminder, this discussion should be in the Coffee Shop. Just a couple of quick responses, but then we should probably pick it up over there, if we want to keep the discussion political. 1) My motto is Make America Good Again 2) Enjoy the days when you can even begin to tell the difference ...
by Hagoth
Mon Aug 11, 2025 7:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood Power
Replies: 4
Views: 20311

Re: Priesthood Power

Here's something that kind of bothered me in my believing days. I started to become aware of how we used to hear all kinds of stories about amazing healings and even people being raised from the dead (remember Matthew Cowley?) but they seemed to be less and less common as they approached the current ...
by Hagoth
Wed Aug 06, 2025 8:43 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood Power
Replies: 4
Views: 20311

Priesthood Power

Does the typical TBM Church member believe Mormons recover from sever illness at a higher rate than the general public? Do they wonder if statistics back this belief up? A member of NOM who was a hospital system executive did some research and actually saw a slightly higher death rate from cancer in ...
by Hagoth
Tue Aug 05, 2025 9:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The LDS Church as a judge, the Judge?
Replies: 7
Views: 206423

Re: The LDS Church as a judge, the Judge?

NDEs are fascinating. The only thing I know about them for sure is that they are very direct and personal experiences. I am highly suspect of the people who write a best selling book about their NDE and then continue to remember new details for three or four more volumes. Especially when those ...
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 24, 2025 6:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sign up now!
Replies: 6
Views: 182271

Re: Sign up now!

A bit of AI humor: asked AI to come up with a few courses to supplement the fair conference. FAITH-PROMOTING EXPLANATIONS 101 Credit Hours: 3 Learn to lovingly deflect complex historical issues with phrases like “We don’t know all the reasons” and “Ask God.” Final project: write a devotional that ma ...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 18, 2025 3:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sign up now!
Replies: 6
Views: 182271

Sign up now!

Oh boy! The FAIR conference is coming up. How better to spend $150 and 3 days of your life. Sign up here: https://fairlatterdaysaints.org/store/product/august-2025-fair-conference/ Is it me, or does their description sound a bit desperate? Together, we’ll explore faith, clarify doubts, and find our t ...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 11, 2025 8:10 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Mike Lee
Replies: 6
Views: 3108

Re: Mike Lee

Brigham responded to Joseph's prophecy of the constitution hanging by a thread by saying the elders of the church would save it. I guess what he failed to forsee that Mormon voters and politicians would be among the most enthusiastic causes of the thread hanging.
by Hagoth
Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Word equations.
Replies: 1
Views: 1220

Re: Word equations.

Nelson+Oaks+Eyring=Moe+Larry+Curly
by Hagoth
Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:57 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Mike Lee
Replies: 6
Views: 3108

Re: Mike Lee

As the article said, Mike Lee needs an Intervention. MAGA has turned his brain to mush. Yeah, but in the long run I wonder if it will hurt him. There seem to be a lot of people out there who love this kind of hateful, spiteful message. That's why these people are in power in the first place. MAGA ...
by Hagoth
Sat Jun 21, 2025 7:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 1886 Polygamy Revelation published
Replies: 3
Views: 2007

Re: 1886 Polygamy Revelation published

This is fascinating. I first heard about the existence of this letter 20 or so years ago. Every time I came across any mention of it, there was always an apologist perched and ready to proclaim that it either didn't exist or that it was a fraud. I wonder what caused the church to release it now, and ...
by Hagoth
Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:37 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: DEI for Consevatives
Replies: 3
Views: 2464

Re: DEI for Consevatives

“merit-based... They either have no idea what this term means or they just don't give a flying f**k. Fired: https://imgs.search.brave.com/dy8HmRNV6iopc15N9r4E6eCEFGBzx76waK-hFPzVfHM/rs:fit:860:0:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9hNTcu/Zm94bmV3cy5jb20v/c3RhdGljLmZveG5l/d3MuY29tL2ZveG5l/d3MuY29tL2NvbnRl/b ...
by Hagoth
Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:25 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Trump follows Joseph Smith playbook.
Replies: 2
Views: 1205

Re: Trump follows Joseph Smith playbook.

There is definitely a pattern. I suspect it could also apply to autocratic leaders of many other high-demand organizations.
by Hagoth
Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:15 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1157
Views: 7176425

Re: Keeping up with Trump

Looks like the parade attendance paled in comparison to the No Kings rallies.

It's really sad that someone died here in SLC, but I suppose it could have been much worse if the guy had unloaded into the crowd.
by Hagoth
Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:51 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1157
Views: 7176425

Re: Keeping up with Trump

I went to the U of U protest. I think there were more people there than at the dick-tater parade in D.C. Very peaceful. Healthy, clean-cut people with nice teeth who spoke in intelligent, conversational tones. Just 3 campus cops chilling in the shade on the terrace. Trump must be SO pissed that more ...
by Hagoth
Thu Jun 05, 2025 4:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mr. Deity is back!
Replies: 1
Views: 2065

Re: Mr. Deity is back!

Oh boy!
by Hagoth
Sun May 25, 2025 9:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What happened to deism?
Replies: 6
Views: 2709

Re: What happened to deism?

Maybe it's the argument that if you believe in God enough to think he created the universe, why is it difficult for you to believe he's still around bt that your tiny human brain just isn't picking up on the evidence, or mistakenly expecting it to look different.