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So what you're saying is that if the cards fall "right" we could be looking at a Bednar presidency that lasts two decades or more. That would be great for the church, by which I mean it will make it smaller an more homogenous as an unprecedented number of once-faithful members make a beeline for ...

He has gone on to that great taffy pulling machine in the sky.

I had to beat WTFluff to the punch: https://imgs.search.brave.com/AJB4GO_k87o2gciGNgtSAsCKaexqckKUJRydxHQAqPk/rs:fit:860:0:0:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly9yZXMu/Y2xvdWRpbmFyeS5j/b20vdGVlcHVibGlj/L2ltYWdlL3ByaXZh/dGUvcy0tQmtvc2JP/Q28tLS90X1ByZXZp/ZXcvYl9yZ2I6MzY1/MzhiLGNfbGltaXQs/Zl9hdXRvLGhfNjMw ...

Remember when it was a victory for Satan to use the word Mormon, and church members were told to avoid it like a thing of pure evil? Suddenly podcasters and bloggers are getting letters from church lawyers demanding that they stop using the word "Mormon." The reason? It's OUR trademark and you're ...

I'm not an apologist, and I do see those two examples as comparable. I am convinced a lot of our differences are motivated by something other than the facts or data. Some things that we all are affected by: Bias and Pride, for example. Facts alone will not convince an opponent. Facts coupled with ...

So penises are evil, but a woman's breast is perfectly fine? Man, there is some weird sexism with their definition of pornography. Insert a reference to the movie ZARDOZ here... Although there are certainly exceptions, Greek art usually has men naked and women clothed. Ha. I saw Zardoz at the drive ...

alas wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:58 am ...denial is her first name.

After that river in Africa?

alas wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:58 am Several things that she used to claim were deal breakers for her, and she just refuses to accept reality. She does not want to know because then she would have to see that she is wrong.

So, she's also a Mormon.

The Etruscan civilization was a proto-Roman society that is a good comparison to the Nephites in size, time period, influence and material culture. There are many museums filled with their artifacts: https://www.romecabs.com/upload/CONF99/20210930/Etruscan_Museums_Vatican__Etruscan_Tours_in_Italy ...

Hey BoM apologists. You tell me that three of these South Arabic letters (can you find 'em?) are the Hebrew equivalent to NHM, which you say spells Nahom, which you claim is the location described in the BoM. Kinda seems like a not-all-that-impressive coincidence to me. https://imgs.search.brave.com ...

Mrs. Hagoth was sharing travel notes with a TBM neighbor. The neighbor (mother of one of the newest GAs) talked about what a horrible experience they had visiting Athens. They were shocked and disgusted by the pornography EVERYWHERE The conversation went something like: Mrs. H: "Wow, things must ...

I find it interesting that we found the site of Troy, the city from the Homer's The Illiad . We don't know if there really was a giant wooden horse, but we know where the city was. For the BOM, a book supposed not even as old as The Illiand , we sure don't have any evidence of anything that it ...

Thanks for all the interesting history Hagoth. It seems to me that Martin Harris' support for the early church is a big blow to it's credibility. Like my conspiracy theory-believing dad's support for the current church was a big blow to my view of it's credibility... Yeah, church members never hear ...

The Mormonism Live discussion of Martin Harris is very entertaining and well worth the listen. There are some interesting points they overlooked regarding the Harris/Anthon encounter that I think are worth mentioning: -The story we have in church history is not Martin's first person account. It is a ...

Oh no. Even though I never met him, I considered Moksha a friend. We checked in with each other from time to time via PM. I tried many times to coerce him into meeting in real life but he always declined. I had the impression that he was quite old and not well. He told me a couple of times that he ...

It would be sad to be Donald Trump. He hates a lot of people. Imagine thinking that some people admire you for your ability to hate others, to promote hate. Imagine thinking that Christians(!!!)admire you because you promote hate. No one misunderstands or abuses Jesus more than Christians. In the ...

Do you ever have moments when you think there is a possibility that Hinduism, or Buddhism, or Daoism is true? I probably have those at least as often, and to a similar degree, as I do that the LDS faith might be true. That is also a tack I like to take with LDS people (on the rare occasion that they ...

I would like to take this chain of though back even further. There was once a time when people were connected with the earth and the sky as their deities. Then priests came along and started making a living by inventing gods, bossing people around, and tricking them out of their wealth and ...

The lovely Mrs. Hagoth and I just got back from a couple of weeks in Greece. We visited many ruins and many museums and were overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of material cultural these people left behind, from which archeologists and historians can sleuth the tiniest details of their lives. Every ...

Like everything else, the Mormon church has stolen the story of the Founding Fathers and made them our property. In August 1877, Wilford Woodruff reported having a vision in the St. George Temple where the Founding Fathers of the United States, including the signers of the Declaration of ...

... If I was the PR Director, I’d cancel the regurgitation and focus on treating humans with kindness and saving the world from real problems. Think of all the good the church could do instead of reshaping the same old ball of play-dough. Honestly this is one of my biggest issues with MORmONism.. ...