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by Hagoth
Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"
Replies: 5
Views: 110

Re: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"

There are some who turn to Eastern philosophies - Taoism, Buddhism. A few universalists :) I love many of the underlying concepts of those traditions. Their problem is that they have fallen into the same traps. Buddhism with hells and demons? Hinduism with millions of gods? Fortunately, Zen takes a...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:18 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"
Replies: 5
Views: 110

Re: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"

RubinHighlander wrote:
Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:19 pm
I go on existential journeys all the time, but it's best not to ever expect answers and just be okay to play with the questions and endless possibilities.
Amen, brother. These are the kinds of words I would expect to hear when I climb the mountain and talk to the guru.
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What’s wrong with the cross?
Replies: 13
Views: 125

Re: What’s wrong with the cross?

I just have to say the logic or reasoning that the church doesn't embrace wearing crosses is because we don't focus on Christ's death is unbelievably faulty and nonsensical. What do we do almost every freakin' Sunday!? We literally sing hymns and partake of emblems of his death!!!!! I mean really?!...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What’s wrong with the cross?
Replies: 13
Views: 125

Re: What’s wrong with the cross?

Really, it would just cost a crapload of money at this point to install a cross in each chapel or temple... I have noticed that many chapels do have a subtle cross. The ward I grew up in had a huge vertical rectangular window (they don't do that anymore) behind the choir seats. It was divided into ...
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"
Replies: 5
Views: 110

Re: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"

Hi JL! Welcome to NOM! Deconstructing Mormonism also deconstructs a huge swath of religion in general. When people come to the realization that religion and spirituality are not the same thing, and that no religion owns spirituality - that it is a free quality of life that we each own in our own deg...
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Ultra-quick summary of conference?
Replies: 5
Views: 159

Re: Ultra-quick summary of conference?

SincereInquirer wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:50 pm
Blah blah blah "covenant path" blah blah blah.
I have no doubt that is an entirely accurate accounting. Thank you SI.
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New revelation from Russel M. Nelson
Replies: 2
Views: 97

Re: New revelation from Russel M. Nelson

From this day forward Kirton and McConkie's primary purpose will be to protect, defend and promote healing for victims of sexual abuse, rather than protect and defend their abusers. Was this actually said? No. That's why I followed it with "psyche!" It's what everyone wishes could happen, but it co...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New revelation from Russel M. Nelson
Replies: 2
Views: 97

New revelation from Russel M. Nelson

From this day forward Kirton and McConkie's primary purpose will be to protect, defend and promote healing for victims of sexual abuse, rather than protect and defend their abusers.





Psyche!
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?
Replies: 11
Views: 354

Re: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?

deacon blues wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:59 am
These candid observations by an apostle may shed some light on how things operate inside the inner circle.
Thank you so much, Deacon! These are priceless.
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: He (Jesus) who must not be named
Replies: 3
Views: 131

Re: He (Jesus) who must not be named

Valiant work, Lost! Three more things that would be interesting to track: 1-How many of the times Jesus is mentioned when they are talking about things like what Jesus would have us do, our relationship with Jesus, obeying words of Jesus, etc. when they are using Jesus as a symbol for themselves and...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?
Replies: 11
Views: 354

Re: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?

It seems to me that prophets have lead the church astray over and over again. The church reframes it as "speaking as a man," but those prophets often behaved as if, and even outright claimed, they were speaking for God. In the case of Brigham Young, he proclaimed that your eternals salvation was at ...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 10
Views: 319

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

I've always wondered...what if my personal revelation contradicts what the brethren are telling me? It shouldn't, right? So if it does, I must be doing it wrong or Satan is trying to deceive me. So...why even try? Just listen to the prophets and apostles since they won't lead you astray. Personal r...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?
Replies: 6
Views: 228

Re: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?

They look you straight in the eye and tell you that listening to the sociopathic ramblings of Oaks and Bednar is exactly the same as listening to Jesus Christ. Should it be accompanied by a hit of blotter acid? Well, that would either be hilariously ridiculous or cosmically terrifying. Either would...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Ultra-quick summary of conference?
Replies: 5
Views: 159

Ultra-quick summary of conference?

I missed ALL of it except a few minutes of the lady who followed Holland Sunday morning (and from what I heard I liked what she was saying, except for the primary voice). Instead I went to Mormonpalooza, an alternative conference for fringe-sters. Excellent talk by Lindsay Hansen Park! Can someone p...
by Hagoth
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: David Bednar
Replies: 3
Views: 263

Re: David Bednar

Now I'm really confused:
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by Hagoth
Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 23
Views: 421

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I have a lot of trauma from my mission as well. I came home early twice! First time for physical health problems. Once things had stabilized physically more or less with me, I didn't want to go back out and I wanted to go back to college. My mother said if I didn't go back out our family would need...
by Hagoth
Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?
Replies: 6
Views: 228

Hear Him? Really? He will be there?

See, this is what I'm always going on about. I'm sure many of you got this invitation in your email: Hear Him at General Conference One of the ways we can hear Jesus Christ’s voice is through His called prophets, apostles, and other Church leaders that speak at general conference. Think about questi...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Are there no GenCon rumor this time around?
Replies: 7
Views: 259

Re: Are there no GenCon rumor this time around?

I predict a record number of mentions of the "covenant path." Check this out, from a search I made at lds-general-conference.org: Number of uses of "covenant path" in conference talks: 1850s-1190s: zero 2000s: 3 2010s: 106 2020s: 91 (and were not even 3 years into the decade. Remind me to check back...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 317

Re: Where was the City of Enoch?

The intergalactic space criminal Brainiac was known to capture whole cities and place them in a bottle to add to his collection. He literally took them up into space after translating them with his shrink ray. Generations of captured inhabitants lived a miniaturized existence in these bottles in hi...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 10
Views: 319

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

If you want to really remain in your foul mood, have a quick gander at Nelson's latest word salad "The Everlasting Covenant" on the front page of the church's website. It's a doozy of fear and manipulation! Yeah, it's a steamy pile. I talk about some aspects of it here: https://newordermormon.net/v...