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by Hagoth
Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:39 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Technology- has it ruined music?
Replies: 12
Views: 254

Re: Technology- has it ruined music?

I don't usually watch the Grammys but I did a couple of years ago and I felt like I was just hearing multiple versions of the same pop song over and over, some with an R&B mod, some with a Country mod, etc. I switched it off and cranked up the Frank Zappa.
by Hagoth
Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pride works both ways.
Replies: 7
Views: 195

Re: Pride works both ways.

I think "Beware of Pride" has become a thought-stopping cliché in the church. Yes, like so many other words in Mormonism (e.g. translate, modesty, worthiness), pride has developed a new definition. Thinking for yourself is pride. Not being gullible is pride. Failing to obey without question is prid...
by Hagoth
Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pride works both ways.
Replies: 7
Views: 195

Re: Pride works both ways.

moksha wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:04 pm
The reason Socrates was the wisest person in Athens was that he realized how little he knew, and was willing to ask questions to seek answers. He questioned the answers to understand all the ins and out of how the answer was formulated.
And we all know where that got him.
by Hagoth
Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sealing rules?
Replies: 18
Views: 287

Re: Sealing rules?

Thanks for clarifying Allie. When I was a ward clerk there was a couple going through the letter writing process. The bishop had to tell them a few times that their temple cancellations were denied. He seemed clueless as to any form of explanation. “Sorry, I don’t know. The first presidency needs m...
by Hagoth
Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Where will you go?
Replies: 12
Views: 192

Re: Where will you go?

Q: Where will you go?
A: None of your damn business!
by Hagoth
Sat Mar 25, 2023 4:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Utah Flag
Replies: 13
Views: 185

Re: New Utah Flag

This is one of the things that really annoys me about right-wing "patriots", how they proclaim their allegiance to the country and get terribly upset about anyone else dissing any symbol but freely abuse the ignore the actual guidelines for those symbols. And they have no problem with their favorit...
by Hagoth
Wed Mar 22, 2023 6:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Utah Flag
Replies: 13
Views: 185

Re: New Utah Flag

The old flag looks like they were trying REALLY hard to convince the rest of the nation that they were real Americans, not weirdo polygamist separatists that they really were. Kind of like they're still trying to convince the nation that they are real MAGA Christians, not weirdo cultists. https://cd...
by Hagoth
Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Miracles that sustain my doubts.
Replies: 1
Views: 88

Re: Miracles that sustain my doubts.

I recently was at bookstore and picked up a book on old historic adobe Salt Lake houses. Imagine my feelings when I randomly opened the book at home this afternoon and found a chapter about a house that Sarah Pratt, the apostate wife of Orson Pratt, had lived in. :o Other doubt sustaining miracles ...
by Hagoth
Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can girls pass the sacrament?
Replies: 11
Views: 246

Re: Can girls pass the sacrament?

I have seen it back when I did go that some boy would intentionally wear a colored shirt so that they had an excuse to not have to pass. That way they could spend the meeting doing something lightly less mind numbing like being on display, not able to talk to friends or play with whatever electroni...
by Hagoth
Wed Mar 22, 2023 7:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Where will you go?
Replies: 12
Views: 192

Re: Where will you go?

I would say I'm already there; on a journey of discovery instead of going around and around in the same circle. I would tell him that a wise man once said, "if you still believe the same things at fifty that you believed at twenty-five, you've wasted twenty-five years." Love that quote and have use...
by Hagoth
Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Where will you go?
Replies: 12
Views: 192

Re: Where will you go?

I would say I'm already there; on a journey of discovery instead of going around and around in the same circle. I would tell him that a wise man once said, "if you still believe the same things at fifty that you believed at twenty-five, you've wasted twenty-five years."
by Hagoth
Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sealing rules?
Replies: 18
Views: 287

Re: Sealing rules?

That means that polygamy is still a part of the doctrine despite the efforts to distance. Makes sense considering D&C 132 is still around. Which is why Nelson and Oaks have proudly called themselves polygamists across the pulpit. The conversation I was having came to an abrupt end when the ladies s...
by Hagoth
Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pride works both ways.
Replies: 7
Views: 195

Re: Pride works both ways.

Yes. Many of us know someone who fancies themselves the "go to guy" in their ward for gospel/scripture/apologetics answers. It is a big part of their identity and they are very proud of the lofty position in which they imagine themselves. As a result, they are very derisive of alternative views, ang...
by Hagoth
Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can girls pass the sacrament?
Replies: 11
Views: 246

Re: Can girls pass the sacrament?

Hell, boys can't even pass the sacrament in my ward if they aren't wearing a white shirt. I wonder if the shirt is more of a barrier than the gender. Maybe girls in white shirts and ties will soon be able to pass the sacrament. But wait a minute, that smacks of blurring the black and white line betw...
by Hagoth
Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The other side
Replies: 2
Views: 156

Re: The other side

The only note I ever wrote in the blank pages at the back of my scriptures was when Jeff Holland spoke at our stake conference: "The only way out is through - Jeffery R. Holland" He was 100% right. He just didn't understand what those words really mean. It takes a lot of courage to get all the way t...
by Hagoth
Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The verdict is in... the Book of Mormon is true!
Replies: 9
Views: 181

The verdict is in... the Book of Mormon is true!

At least according to Bing Chat AI! I asked it to consider the archaeological, zoological, botanical, linguistic, literary, and genetic evidence and tell me what is the likelihood that the Book of Mormon is a true story. It gave me a few paragraphs of general discussion and concluded with: "Thousand...
by Hagoth
Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What would have happened if JS was successful in selling the BoM copyright?
Replies: 5
Views: 216

Re: What would have happened if JS was successful in selling the BoM copyright?

That whole episode is really important, I think, in understanding Joseph and the early church. I think Joseph expected the BoM to be a big seller and let him retire in his 20s. He even had a revelation that his only gift was to translate the BoM and then he would sit back and in cruise mode. What a ...
by Hagoth
Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Nemo's letter
Replies: 11
Views: 393

Re: Nemo's letter

Ok. By raise of hands, how many folks here think that Nemo himself actually believes that letters to Ribeye Presidents would actually result in a "disciplinary council" for the top 3 stooges of LD$-Inc. ? Anyone? Anyone? Nah. It's just a funny/creative way to point out the blatant hypocricy of the ...
by Hagoth
Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:34 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Creator vs Natural Selection
Replies: 15
Views: 429

Re: Creator vs Natural Selection

Question to Woman: if there were a fire and you could only save yourself, would you go back for your husband? Woman's answer, sheepishly given: No, I would save myself. Question to Man: If there were a fire and you could only save yourself, would you go back for your wife? Man's answer, soberly giv...
by Hagoth
Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is it possible to get your donation history from the church?
Replies: 13
Views: 317

Re: Is it possible to get your donation history from the church?

I can look at the 10 years that are available via my membership account and spot the exact moment I said, wow, this is all bullsh*t! On February 5, 2017 there is a payment of $0.00 with the status "Reversed," in red. It is the only transaction that is not marked "completed." This should have been wh...