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by Hagoth
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: David Bednar
Replies: 3
Views: 241

Re: David Bednar

Now I'm really confused:
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by Hagoth
Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 16
Views: 280

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I have a lot of trauma from my mission as well. I came home early twice! First time for physical health problems. Once things had stabilized physically more or less with me, I didn't want to go back out and I wanted to go back to college. My mother said if I didn't go back out our family would need...
by Hagoth
Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?
Replies: 4
Views: 161

Hear Him? Really? He will be there?

See, this is what I'm always going on about. I'm sure many of you got this invitation in your email: Hear Him at General Conference One of the ways we can hear Jesus Christ’s voice is through His called prophets, apostles, and other Church leaders that speak at general conference. Think about questi...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Are there no GenCon rumor this time around?
Replies: 7
Views: 227

Re: Are there no GenCon rumor this time around?

I predict a record number of mentions of the "covenant path." Check this out, from a search I made at lds-general-conference.org: Number of uses of "covenant path" in conference talks: 1850s-1190s: zero 2000s: 3 2010s: 106 2020s: 91 (and were not even 3 years into the decade. Remind me to check back...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 289

Re: Where was the City of Enoch?

The intergalactic space criminal Brainiac was known to capture whole cities and place them in a bottle to add to his collection. He literally took them up into space after translating them with his shrink ray. Generations of captured inhabitants lived a miniaturized existence in these bottles in hi...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 9
Views: 263

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

If you want to really remain in your foul mood, have a quick gander at Nelson's latest word salad "The Everlasting Covenant" on the front page of the church's website. It's a doozy of fear and manipulation! Yeah, it's a steamy pile. I talk about some aspects of it here: https://newordermormon.net/v...
by Hagoth
Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: *The Dreaded Asterisk*
Replies: 7
Views: 265

Re: *The Dreaded Asterisk*

[*] Leaders will work to help "reform" the guilty by encouraging them to be in a position where they can choose not to abuse people, and the potential victims are not warned about this ahead of time. [*] They will tell leaders not to report abuse, even when it is required by local law. [*] They wil...
by Hagoth
Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 9
Views: 263

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

I don't know if it was because of this thread or the approach of General Conference, but I woke up very early this morning particularly pissed off at the leaders of the victory-for-Satan* church. I'm getting less and less tolerant of people who pretend to speak for God (either they know they really ...
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs
Replies: 8
Views: 193

Re: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs

deacon blues wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:39 am
Benson was not the president when he gave this this. In fact he privately reprimanded by the First Presidency for giving this talk.
And yet, they continue to quote it in conference talks, because, now more than ever, it really is the message they want/need people to believe and accept.
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?
Replies: 8
Views: 249

Re: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?

Several of the Q15 shared with their families they did not support it. But only with their families! No one stood up against it. The biggest hurdle they would have to overcome is that their entire existence revolves around the idea of honoring oaths that they have sworn to the church and to superio...
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 289

Re: Where was the City of Enoch?

Here's one. The City of Enoch was actually shrunk to the size of a marble and now it's hanging from the collar of a cat in NYC.
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 9
Views: 263

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

Didn't he mean the exact opposite? An opportunity to have some corporate policy rammed down your throat that you will be told is revelation by people who know it really isn't? Actual personal revelation is strictly forbidden. How is it that it doesn't occur to people like your bishop that what he's ...
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 289

Re: Where was the City of Enoch?

From Wilford Woodruff's Journal: "Joseph also said that when the City of Enoch fled and was translated, it was where the gulf of Mexico now is; it left that gulf a body of water." I can't find it, but I remember reading an excerpt from the journal of an early saint who said Joseph Smith pointed to a...
by Hagoth
Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:28 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Mushrooms and Mysteries
Replies: 68
Views: 4776

Re: Mushrooms and Mysteries

I forgot I have a conflict, so won't be making the solstice celebration either. Too bad. I was pleased that there was no woo woo at all*, just a very pleasant gathering with acoustic music, hot dog roasting, and lots of interesting conversation. It seems like I'm seeing less of the New Age elements...
by Hagoth
Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 289

Re: Where was the City of Enoch?

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by Hagoth
Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 289

Where was the City of Enoch?

It was post-Adam and pre-Noah, which means it was in North America, right? Have you heard any speculations about this? The Grand Canyon? Or maybe Vernal, Utah. When the CofE tore loose from the ground it uncovered all of those dinosaur bones that were leftovers from the planet fragments that were us...
by Hagoth
Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Super Mormons
Replies: 7
Views: 319

Re: Super Mormons

...I knew a woman in early 1970’s who went on fertility medication and used a sperm donor, and her husband divorced her because the baby wasn’t his and the church disfellowshipped her, because the baby wasn’t his. That's pretty pathetic. It also kind of makes sense when you take into account the '7...
by Hagoth
Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs
Replies: 8
Views: 193

Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs

From Russel's latest message: I have spoken frequently about the importance of the Abrahamic covenant and the gathering of Israel. When we embrace the gospel and are baptized, we take upon ourselves the sacred name of Jesus Christ. Baptism is the gate that leads to becoming joint heirs to all the pr...
by Hagoth
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:07 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 669
Views: 124658

Re: Keeping up with Trump

Trump announced on Hannity's program on Fox, that he has the power to declassify stolen top secret documents just by thinking about it. To bolster this claim, both Fox and the Republican Congressional delegation will testify that Trump's mental telepathy is real and cite Q-anon evidence of Moon Qua...
by Hagoth
Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: *The Dreaded Asterisk*
Replies: 7
Views: 265

Re: *The Dreaded Asterisk*

How did he learn about it? There are a lot of details that I don't feel I'm at liberty to discuss, but he had multiple confirmations that all of this was going on, including from people attending those meetings. But, what I'm trying to focus on is the emotional brutality of a culture that feels the...