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by Hagoth
Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: You know you're in a cult when...
Replies: 8
Views: 109

You know you're in a cult when...

(Just acting on Red Ryder's musings in another thread)

...your mother cries every day, and your neighbors are scowling at you, because your underwear doesn't have secret masonic markings.

...You are asked if you have enough faith to NOT be healed by a guy who claims to be an apostle of Jesus Christ.
by Hagoth
Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: John Larsen and the handcart horror story
Replies: 6
Views: 277

Re: John Larsen and the handcart horror story

Here's a RadioWest episode where Will talks about both points, starting around minute 32:00.

https://radiowest.kuer.org/post/where-g ... -mountains
by Hagoth
Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:45 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: John Larsen and the handcart horror story
Replies: 6
Views: 277

Re: John Larsen and the handcart horror story

There were a couple of points that I learned about from Will Bagley that Larsen didn't discuss that I think are very important. Which Will Bagley source did these come from? It's been a while since I read Blood of the Prophets. It was an article he sent me that was being prepped for publication, bu...
by Hagoth
Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news
Replies: 14
Views: 392

Re: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news

hallew wrote:
Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:42 pm
Wouldn't epicurean thigh sex be better? It's what ancient Greeks did...
The church would prefer the birthing of children directly from your head or thigh, like Zeus did, over Hephaestus' thigh hump. But both probably require confession to your bishop.
by Hagoth
Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lamanites called to Enoch Space City?
Replies: 21
Views: 1122

Re: Lamanites called to Enoch Space City?

There is a very interesting alternative chronology of history that I glanced over which compares the historical recordings of the solstices instead of the ancient writings passed down from the nobles and monasteries of the "dark ages" in Europe. This mathematical reorganization of the past reveals ...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news
Replies: 14
Views: 392

Re: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news

The Alpha House series on Prime had a Mormon girl who wouldn't have sex with her boyfriend, but soaking was ok, so they showed them soaking and soaking and soaking in all kinds of places and positions. Sex seems to be the recurring major theme of Mormonism, whether you're in it, out of it, or studyi...
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell
Replies: 6
Views: 197

Re: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell

First takeaway: Mormonism sets the stage for these kinds of tragedies by telling us that continuing revelation means there is still important information coming. It puts that in the context of last days where we are told that those who are not prepared will suffer - soon. But then it leaves us hangi...
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: John Larsen and the handcart horror story
Replies: 6
Views: 277

John Larsen and the handcart horror story

I thought John Larsen did a great job of telling the horror story of the handcart pioneers. I especially appreciated his observations about how you can hide a huge mistake by celebrating it as a success and turning it into an emotional youth indoctrination tool. There were a couple of points that I ...
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell
Replies: 6
Views: 197

Re: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell

I'm really looking forward to discussing this but I gotta find 7 freakin' hours to listen to it first.
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A new Proclamation to the World
Replies: 0
Views: 96

A new Proclamation to the World

To Whom it may Concern, We, the First Presidency of the Churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints do hereby declare unto the world that we have amassed a truly mindblowing butt-load of wealth that you people can't even begin to wrap your heads around. Meanwhile, our youth are killing themselves in record...
by Hagoth
Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Which doubts to doubt?
Replies: 7
Views: 247

Re: Which doubts to doubt?

Hiding In Plain Sight (remember him?) used to talk about two Jehovah's Witness families he taught on his mission (forgive me if I'm mascaraing this story HiPS). One family converted to Mormonism and the other didn't. At the LDS church on Sunday the family that converted were constantly held up as ri...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:59 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Please join me for Skeptoid live presentation
Replies: 4
Views: 149

Re: Please join me for Skeptoid live presentation

Any possibility this will be streamed online? Unfortunately, the commuter costs would are a no-go for me. It won't be live streamed but the movie will be released after his tour. Maybe he'll make one of the whistle-stop sessions available at some point. I'll try to remember to ask him for you. Wher...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Which doubts to doubt?
Replies: 7
Views: 247

Re: Which doubts to doubt?

We should doubt the thoughts that interfere with following the true order of priesthood authority and doctrines of the church. 1: The current living prophet 2. The first presidency 3. The quorum of the twelve apostles 4. Correlated doctrine 5. Any policy or practice determined to be relevant by the...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:43 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Please join me for Skeptoid live presentation
Replies: 4
Views: 149

Re: Please join me for Skeptoid live presentation

DPRoberts wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:56 am
Sounds interesting, Hagoth. I should be free that evening, so I am going the links you left on the Support board and I may see you up there on the 23rd.
Excellent! I'll keep an eye out.
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:42 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Which doubts to doubt?
Replies: 7
Views: 247

Which doubts to doubt?

The more I think about it the concept of "doubt your doubts" the more I realize how nonsensical it is. Maybe someone can help me with understanding what the appropriate TBM take on this is be and how you can know exactly what lines you shouldn't color outside of. My immediate response is to ask, "wh...
by Hagoth
Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Binding God
Replies: 8
Views: 274

Re: Binding God

In the words of another Latter-Day prophet: One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all, And in the darkness bind them. Joseph and Brigham were very interested in the bring them all and bind them parts. Heber C. Kimball preferred a ring in the nose to one on the fing...
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Progressive Mormon Debate
Replies: 10
Views: 316

Re: The Progressive Mormon Debate

I'm not listening anymore to any of these voices. I'm simply not going to listen to regular mormons, ex-mormons, progressive mormons, Trumper mormons or jack mormons. For that matter, I'm not going to jump to attention when political leaders, academics, other spiritual or religious leaders, my loca...
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Quells COVID-19
Replies: 5
Views: 217

Re: Church Quells COVID-19

They're mormonizing the word. You thought "quell" means quell, but it really means "quell."
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temple changes
Replies: 22
Views: 973

Re: Temple changes

I'm thinking the idea of binding God is quite unique to Christianity, although not totally unheard of. This could call for a new thread, if anyone else is interested in exploring it. 8-) I'd like to start a new thread. I am interested in the wider world religion context. I'm also interested in how ...
by Hagoth
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lamanites called to Enoch Space City?
Replies: 21
Views: 1122

Re: Lamanites called to Enoch Space City?

What if instead the Israelite DNA sample is incorrect? It's very possible the history of Israel and the genetic lineage has been completely lost. I don't believe that is even remotely possible. We know Israelite DNA lineages the same way we know Native American and Asian lineages - because the rema...