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by Hagoth
Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:25 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
Replies: 2
Views: 3079

Re: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!

I find it interesting that we found the site of Troy, the city from the Homer's The Illiad . We don't know if there really was a giant wooden horse, but we know where the city was. For the BOM, a book supposed not even as old as The Illiand , we sure don't have any evidence of anything that it ...
by Hagoth
Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The wacky world of Martin Harris
Replies: 2
Views: 1619

Re: The wacky world of Martin Harris

Thanks for all the interesting history Hagoth. It seems to me that Martin Harris' support for the early church is a big blow to it's credibility. Like my conspiracy theory-believing dad's support for the current church was a big blow to my view of it's credibility... Yeah, church members never hear ...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The wacky world of Martin Harris
Replies: 2
Views: 1619

The wacky world of Martin Harris

The Mormonism Live discussion of Martin Harris is very entertaining and well worth the listen. There are some interesting points they overlooked regarding the Harris/Anthon encounter that I think are worth mentioning: -The story we have in church history is not Martin's first person account. It is a ...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:20 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I heard Moksha passed away recently…
Replies: 9
Views: 7219

Re: I heard Moksha passed away recently…

Oh no. Even though I never met him, I considered Moksha a friend. We checked in with each other from time to time via PM. I tried many times to coerce him into meeting in real life but he always declined. I had the impression that he was quite old and not well. He told me a couple of times that he ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:17 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1173
Views: 7499859

Re: Keeping up with Trump

It would be sad to be Donald Trump. He hates a lot of people. Imagine thinking that some people admire you for your ability to hate others, to promote hate. Imagine thinking that Christians(!!!)admire you because you promote hate. No one misunderstands or abuses Jesus more than Christians. In the ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:14 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: What are the odds?
Replies: 3
Views: 9911

Re: What are the odds?

Do you ever have moments when you think there is a possibility that Hinduism, or Buddhism, or Daoism is true? I probably have those at least as often, and to a similar degree, as I do that the LDS faith might be true. That is also a tack I like to take with LDS people (on the rare occasion that they ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:08 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Trying to find a Dallin Oaks quote
Replies: 3
Views: 2891

Re: Trying to find a Dallin Oaks quote

I would like to take this chain of though back even further. There was once a time when people were connected with the earth and the sky as their deities. Then priests came along and started making a living by inventing gods, bossing people around, and tricking them out of their wealth and ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
Replies: 2
Views: 3079

Where's the beef (artifacts)?!

The lovely Mrs. Hagoth and I just got back from a couple of weeks in Greece. We visited many ruins and many museums and were overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of material cultural these people left behind, from which archeologists and historians can sleuth the tiniest details of their lives. Every ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Founding Fathers
Replies: 3
Views: 4640

Re: Founding Fathers

Like everything else, the Mormon church has stolen the story of the Founding Fathers and made them our property. In August 1877, Wilford Woodruff reported having a vision in the St. George Temple where the Founding Fathers of the United States, including the signers of the Declaration of ...
by Hagoth
Sat Oct 18, 2025 12:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: If I was the PR Director of the Church…
Replies: 6
Views: 7202

Re: If I was the PR Director of the Church…

... If I was the PR Director, I’d cancel the regurgitation and focus on treating humans with kindness and saving the world from real problems. Think of all the good the church could do instead of reshaping the same old ball of play-dough. Honestly this is one of my biggest issues with MORmONism.. ...
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 07, 2025 11:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: RMN
Replies: 7
Views: 7319

RMN

This week I have been bombarded with constant and gushing words of amazement about what an remarkable, unique, and brilliant man RMN was: world-class surgeon, spoke multiple languages, accomplished musician, photographic memory, brilliantly insightful and intellectual... My question is, what did he ...
by Hagoth
Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Chiasmus?
Replies: 0
Views: 3504

Chiasmus?

I just listened to RFM's podcast about chiasmus. If you haven't heard it, he reviews one of his own podcasts and finds it filled with chiasms. He concludes that he must be an Israelite from 600BC. I decided to look for chiasms elsewhere with the help of ChatGPT. Here are a few I found: Donald Trump ...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:37 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Transfer of Prophetic Mantel Discussion
Replies: 4
Views: 30145

Re: Transfer of Prophetic Mantel Discussion

Maybe there's a secret Holy Handbook™ somewhere that documents how they take care of the Magick spells needed to make H.Oaks think he has "all the power." When Moroni showed the gold plates to David and Oliver, David Whitmer said Moroni materialized a table with a lot of goodies on it, including t ...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Transfer of Prophetic Mantel Discussion
Replies: 4
Views: 30145

Re: Transfer of Prophetic Mantel Discussion

Red Ryder wrote: Tue Sep 30, 2025 1:32 pm Religious procedure… who sets Oaks apart as Prophet?
Pedro, Jaime y Juan. Duh.
by Hagoth
Tue Sep 30, 2025 8:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Active shooter at church in Michigan
Replies: 15
Views: 48024

Re: Active shooter at church in Michigan

had lived in Utah and had a relationship with a woman involved in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. During their conversation, Sanford told him he had his tattoos removed to take part in church ceremonies. Maybe it was Jesus on a cross. We really hate that kind of CHRISTIAN ...
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:20 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Active shooter at church in Michigan
Replies: 15
Views: 48024

Re: Active shooter at church in Michigan

The North Carolina shooter is also a decorated Marine Veteran who was obsessed with right-wing conspiracy theories. I think a pattern is emerging, and it's not the one the Administration is pushing.
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Active shooter at church in Michigan
Replies: 15
Views: 48024

Re: Active shooter at church in Michigan

Ironically, he was a recipient of the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal. Some reports say he lived in Utah for several years, but I still haven't seen any reports that tie him to the LDS church specifically. https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-560w,f_auto,q_auto:best/rockcms ...
by Hagoth
Sun Sep 28, 2025 3:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: President Nelson has Died
Replies: 10
Views: 43708

Re: President Nelson has Died

Do you think he will continue his hateful LGBT rhetoric, or will he now play nice cop and assign someone else, maybe Christofferson, to be hard on The Gays and post guards to keep our restrooms trans-free?
by Hagoth
Sun Sep 28, 2025 3:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Active shooter at church in Michigan
Replies: 15
Views: 48024

Re: Active shooter at church in Michigan

This is a very sad story. Looks like he smashed through a wall right into the chapel and opened fire. I can't imagine how terrifying it must have been! I hope they don't gloss over the details: -White male -Gun owner -Marine veteran -Drove a pickup with two large American flags -Had a Trump sign on ...
by Hagoth
Sun Sep 28, 2025 10:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: President Nelson has Died
Replies: 10
Views: 43708

Re: President Nelson has Died

What do you want to bet he left a long list of posthumous temple announcements to make sure no one trumps his numbers?