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by Hagoth
Mon Feb 06, 2023 4:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Noah and the Flood
Replies: 17
Views: 289

Re: Noah and the Flood

A TBM friend of mine saw all of these problems and came to the conclusion that it only had to rain really hard for a short period during those 40 days, just enough to cover all of the mountains with 1/4 inch of water. Baptism requires total submersion, but there is no minimum depth specification. T...
by Hagoth
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)
Replies: 19
Views: 285

Re: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)

malkie wrote:
Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:16 am
One of my IRL friends is a researcher in the field of cognitive neurobiology.
Malkie, you're friends with Michael Ferguson? Holy cow. He's the guy got this whole field rolling.

I will PM you.
by Hagoth
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 540

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

I just saw that Spencer Fluhman is stepping down as director of the Maxwell Institute in May. I doubt this is directly related to this book or any of the other situations, but he must look forward to not having the pressure on him from having to stand between the fundamentalism in the church and th...
by Hagoth
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Noah and the Flood
Replies: 17
Views: 289

Re: Noah and the Flood

A TBM friend of mine saw all of these problems and came to the conclusion that it only had to rain really hard for a short period during those 40 days, just enough to cover all of the mountains with 1/4 inch of water. Baptism requires total submersion, but there is no minimum depth specification. Th...
by Hagoth
Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Noah and the Flood
Replies: 17
Views: 289

Re: Noah and the Flood

The hardcore apologists will tell you that there were no mountains before the flood. The continents were all combined together in Pangaea until the days of Peleg. Radioactive decay didn't happen as we see it today. Light did not refract. In order to accept a worldwide flood, you need to be unaware ...
by Hagoth
Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 540

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

...but it's amazing to watch the church's core doctrines just implode the moment you allow scholarship to enter the conversation. It's a mess, because the church's primary core doctrine comes OUT OF the apostasy. The entire theological structure is built around the idea of the literal fall of Adam ...
by Hagoth
Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)
Replies: 19
Views: 285

Re: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)

I think a very simple way to look at it is that the human brain and body are perfectly capable of producing the feeling we call "the spirit" without the need to attribute it to invisible beings. There might be invisible beings contributing to these feelings, but we have absolutely no way of detectin...
by Hagoth
Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 540

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

The thing that's left to restore is the members' poor understanding of what has been taught specifically by leadership for the past hundred years. So even though it's been taught accurately in the past and membership have understood it correctly in the past, the "restoration" means that members as ...
by Hagoth
Sat Feb 04, 2023 6:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)
Replies: 19
Views: 285

Re: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)

RubinHighlander wrote:
Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:56 am
https://youtu.be/fRnWacLl8QY
Wait... that's the Cosmo you were talking about?
by Hagoth
Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)
Replies: 19
Views: 285

Re: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)

It's always fun to mention Iron Maiden because any high-demand religionist "knows" that a gaggle of retirement-age English Blokes with guitars and a PA system are EVIL! This just in: hidden cameras in the Holy of Holies reveal that the HG looks like this: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/...
by Hagoth
Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:43 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)
Replies: 19
Views: 285

Re: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)

https://d1bbnjcim4wtri.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/16123416/spiritual_experience_2.jpg Long story short, because your brain is doing this ^ It comes as part of the standard package. Any brain can do it. No institution owns it, but they can indoctrinate you respect in only in situation...
by Hagoth
Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:09 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Psilomethoxin
Replies: 8
Views: 280

Re: The Church of Psilomethoxin

Obviously this church does not disclose how they source the MEO5 (either in the lab or milking toads) In some of the literature they make it pretty clear that it's synthetic. They even make it a feature: science meets spirituality kind thing. I'm with the people who say if it is the same molecule, ...
by Hagoth
Mon Jan 30, 2023 1:11 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Psilomethoxin
Replies: 8
Views: 280

Re: The Church of Psilomethoxin

I've recently added new new more common non-psychoactive fungal types to my daily micro doses: Lions Mane, Reishi and Turkey Tail. The Lion's Mane has a caffeine like focus affect that pairs up well with the morning coffee and 100mg of psilocybin. I have a crop of Lion's Mane colonizing in my basem...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can there be an Alma?
Replies: 9
Views: 263

Re: Can there be an Alma?

. . . let alone getting that special visit from a ministering angel that none of the self-righteous never-strayers so desperately desire but never get. Yes, one element of the Alma the Younger (or Saul) story that I always found interesting is the way he didn't have to "work" for his testimony by e...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:46 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can there be an Alma?
Replies: 9
Views: 263

Re: Can there be an Alma?

The church loves Alma stories as long as they can be contained at the ward level. It's kind of like the Telestial kingdom, a repentant sinner can rise so far but they hit the jello ceiling at about the level of Elders Quorum president. But their stories can make it all the way to General Conference ...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:32 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Noah and the Flood
Replies: 17
Views: 289

Re: Noah and the Flood

Why hasn't lds.org come up with an essay justifying this official belief in Bible fundamentalism? They don't have to. They have the entire Abrahamic world on their side when it comes to the Bible, and that's whose respect, especially from the Christian world, they care about. They need apologetics ...
by Hagoth
Sat Jan 28, 2023 7:30 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Church of Psilomethoxin
Replies: 8
Views: 280

The Church of Psilomethoxin

Oh no, it's Hagoth talking about psychedelics again. There's something really interesting going on that I wanted to discuss with y'all. It's called the Church of Psilomethoxin: https://psilomethoxin.com/ There are countless psychedelic churches popping up all over the place. Two of them are particul...
by Hagoth
Sat Jan 28, 2023 6:48 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Non-Christian checklist
Replies: 17
Views: 308

Re: Non-Christian checklist

White Magick: Teenage boys pronouncing an incantation over Wonder Bread and tap water to change it into flesh and blood. I'm going to go ahead and make a wild guess that the "Christians" that created this "baddie" checklist also perform the Eucharist/Communion. I'll also hazard another guess that t...
by Hagoth
Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 25
Views: 540

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

Well yeah, but: Related to the original topic of this post... If the "Great Apostasy" never happened, what is there to 'restore'? This is a great example of how apologetics works. Evidence shows there wasn't an apostasy, so they acknowledge that academically. At the same time a restoration was nece...
by Hagoth
Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Consciousness
Replies: 28
Views: 631

Re: Consciousness

Those (NOM's) who don't know, but know that they don't know don't worry me. Those that don't know that they don't know scare me. In other words, there are those: mystics, religionists, etc. who think they know what is true but they don't. They will try to swallow a camel (Jesus's words) to prove wh...