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by Hagoth
Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen
Replies: 24
Views: 427

Re: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen

I heard an interview with a lawyer who specializes in clerical sexual abuse. He had represented over 100 victims of the the Catholic church (IIRC) and many of the LDS church. He said he didn't know how long he could continue working with Mormon victims because the LDS lawyers are the coldest, least ...
by Hagoth
Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: child's baptism -- help
Replies: 15
Views: 122

Re: child's baptism -- help

I have no specific advice. I just want to comment that there is an obvious worthiness problem here. This church is not worthy of you.
by Hagoth
Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood & Motherhood
Replies: 6
Views: 90

Re: Priesthood & Motherhood

Motherhood is also very fragile and just as out of the woman’s control as the priesthood supposedly is. 20-30% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, often before the woman even knows she is pregnant. And if you as a pregnant woman take the wrong medication, drinks too much alcohol, has too much of any...
by Hagoth
Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood & Motherhood
Replies: 6
Views: 90

Priesthood & Motherhood

When I was growing up in the church, from the time I was 12 years old, I was told that I possessed the greatest power in the universe: The Priesthood! This was the power by which the universe was created, by which I would someday create entire worlds and galaxies, by which I could heal the sick and ...
by Hagoth
Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Convinced the Q15 know the truth
Replies: 15
Views: 316

Re: Convinced the Q15 know the truth

And there's a not-on-my-watch as$$-coverimg mentality. Nobody wants to be the guy who disappoints his adoring, highly privileged family, not to mention millions of worshipful admirers and a legacy of worshipful remberance by being the guy to burst any bubbles. Just throw another log on the fire and ...
by Hagoth
Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:56 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Holotropic Breathwork
Replies: 17
Views: 821

Re: Holotropic Breathwork

There's a fascinating book called Breath , by James Nestor that talks about the modern rediscovery and reintroduction of breathing techniques that date back as far as 5000 years, and the importance of breathing correctly. It's really worth reading. It talks about the high-energy type of breathwork t...
by Hagoth
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Renlund story makes me mad
Replies: 18
Views: 544

Re: Renlund story makes me mad

Looks like the church actually produced a video dramatization of the Renlund talk:
https://youtu.be/vD7PRZD9Rq4?t=157
by Hagoth
Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Feel Injured->Desire Vengeance->Soothe
Replies: 16
Views: 487

Re: Feel Injured->Desire Vengeance->Soothe

I don't feel like my TBMs side with me over the church...It makes me feel anxious around them. That constant church-related anxiety makes moving on difficult. There are very few people inside my real boundary. Some of my favorite people aren't safe to have there, and it's hard to find new favorite ...
by Hagoth
Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Feel Injured->Desire Vengeance->Soothe
Replies: 16
Views: 487

Re: Feel Injured->Desire Vengeance->Soothe

I agree with Angel. The best vengeance is to let them see that your life goes on and you can be even happier and more fulfilled - and even more spiritual - without the church, when you learn to do, think, and feel the things that define you, not them. And it's ok to be pissed too. When we free ourse...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Losing our Eternal Families
Replies: 10
Views: 448

Re: Losing our Eternal Families

What does an eternal family even look like? A man and one or more women, sure. But you aren't gonna be living in a house with your kids - and their kids, and their kids' kids, and on and on ad infinitum. People picture it as being with with spouse(s) and kids, but the kids will have families of the...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Losing our Eternal Families
Replies: 10
Views: 448

Re: Losing our Eternal Families

Sorry for the detour, but I can't even think of Section 19 in any serious doctrinal sense. For me it is among the phoniest of all phony, manipulative D&C revelations, right up there with God threatening to destroy Emma for not being happy about Joseph's sexual misbehavior and God telling the saints ...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 29, 2022 4:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The most well read Mormons are….
Replies: 3
Views: 202

Re: The most well read Mormons are….

Here's a map that gets exactly as much endorsement by LDS leadership as any proposed Book of Mormon geography:

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by Hagoth
Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:32 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Holotropic Breathwork
Replies: 17
Views: 821

Re: Holotropic Breathwork

This adds another tool to the spiritual toolkit that i will continue to use (using the word "spiritual" in a way that has nothing to do with unseen beings, That's how I feel. I learned from the mushrooms thread that I have come to use "spiritual" in a different way than most people, which can cause...
by Hagoth
Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Holy Fetch! (Update…)
Replies: 37
Views: 1981

Re: Holy Fetch! (Update…)

Red Ryder wrote:
Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:32 pm
... now that Jesus and his Jammies have been kicked out of the bed....Yeeeeeeehaw! :lol:
Based on your previous posts on this topic, it sounds like Public Enemy Number One has been conquered.
by Hagoth
Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: More lifting from Old Testament?
Replies: 6
Views: 265

Re: More lifting from Old Testament?

Here’s a great table of other comparisons. https://faenrandir.github.io/a_careful_examination/comparison-table-book-of-mormon-and-bible-verses-origins-project/ The really telling thing here is how many of these verses are lifted from the New Testament, but included in the BoM's timeframe BEFORE the...
by Hagoth
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: More lifting from Old Testament?
Replies: 6
Views: 265

Re: More lifting from Old Testament?

Yeah, funny how those stories just keep repeating: Ether 8:10 And now, therefore, let my father send for Akish, the son of Kimnor; and behold, I am fair, and I will dance before him, and I will please him, that he will desire me to wife; wherefore if he shall desire of thee that ye shall give unto h...
by Hagoth
Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Pope n' Prophet
Replies: 8
Views: 314

Re: Pope n' Prophet

Thank you for filling in those blanks, Mormorrisey. A lot of people are saying it's too little, too late. That may be true but, but I appreciated hearing some humility when Pope Francis begged God for forgiveness, something that you will never hear coming from the mouth of an LDS leader. The Mormon ...
by Hagoth
Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:27 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Holotropic Breathwork
Replies: 17
Views: 821

Re: Holotropic Breathwork

I'm curious what the experience is like for you... I am also interested in what is similar and what is different in comparison to your experience with psychedelics. You're asking me to compare something that is very difficult to describe with something that is impossible to describe! :D The body lo...
by Hagoth
Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Pope n' Prophet
Replies: 8
Views: 314

Pope n' Prophet

https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-canada-religion-edmonton-alberta-b4831ad22056aa2f862f04464966b66e The infallible Pope arrived in Canada to apologize to the Canadian Indigenous groups - for the second time - for his church's role in the boarding school debacle of the previous century. Meanwh...