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by Hagoth
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Did anyone else hear voices?
Replies: 22
Views: 528

Re: Did anyone else hear voices?

Spiritual experiences - they could be real, could come from a larger, bigger place, they don't need to be attached to the church. News flash: feeling warm tingles while watching a sunset does NOT confirm that Russell M. Nelson talks to God or that an angel delivered a gold book. If more believing M...
by Hagoth
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 80
Views: 1544

Re: Fight The New Drug

It's like the prince or the Mormon husband who rescues the young bride and is responsible for pulling her though the veil at the end. It's like a temple story. Mormon women will relate to it, although it's a boring, badly written story. - Wndr. The author is Mormon, right? Do the vampires have to g...
by Hagoth
Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Gong: “Please don’t post that photo…”
Replies: 49
Views: 1189

Re: Elder Gong: “Please don’t post that photo…”

It will not be a revelation - it will be more "policy" changes. Church ran by lawyers and policies and protests - president, not prophet... will everyone be free of it then? Maybe it the Proclamation to the World will be quietly updated in the middle of the night with no announcement at all, like t...
by Hagoth
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 80
Views: 1544

Re: Fight The New Drug

I worked in the videogame industry for many years and from time to time I worked with CG characters that seemed pretty sexy to me. I would think, this is crazy, it's just a few thousand polygons and a texture map. It was drawn by Dan, two seats down from me, and modeled by Jenn over there on the ot...
by Hagoth
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:41 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dan Vogel takes on John Gee and FAIR on Book of Abraham
Replies: 5
Views: 182

Re: Dan Vogel takes on John Gee and FAIR on Book of Abraham

As far as I know, Gee does not submit anything about the BoA for peer review except within the Mormon publishing sphere, where the reviewers understand that they are really cheerleaders. He has also disparaged the concept of peer review in general. Do you think a fantasy writer's literary guild wou...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:19 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dan Vogel takes on John Gee and FAIR on Book of Abraham
Replies: 5
Views: 182

Re: Dan Vogel takes on John Gee and FAIR on Book of Abraham

I am not an Egyptologist, so I can't comment on how Gee's professional, peer-reviewed papers are viewed in that community. As far as I know Gee does not submit anything about the BoA for peer review except within the Mormon publishing sphere, where the reviewers understand that they are really chee...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sealed to the church by shame
Replies: 18
Views: 568

Re: Sealed to the church by shame

... the Bigger Something (however you define that). ... The B.S.? Man I hope I can remember that for use in some future conversation that will likely never happen. "Oh yeah, I definitely believe in The B.S. !" :lol: In your case I think the Bigger Something goes by the name of The Blue Dome
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sealed to the church by shame
Replies: 18
Views: 568

Re: Sealed to the church by shame

ETA - I am wondering if psychedelics may affect ones feelings of shame and understanding? Some have mentioned them before. Would anyone in the know be willing to share their thoughts about that? Yes, they can cut right through the fog. That's why psychedelics were the real cause of the "war on drug...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 80
Views: 1544

Re: Fight The New Drug

What if you came across some CGI videos of aliens or fantasy beings with non-human genitals performing bizarre sex acts? Would it be legal? I can't imagine that it wouldn't. I agree. Most people probably wouldn't respond to it the way they would to human porn. I'm sure some would, but then some peo...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:01 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dan Vogel takes on John Gee and FAIR on Book of Abraham
Replies: 5
Views: 182

Re: Dan Vogel takes on John Gee and FAIR on Book of Abraham

Thanks for pointing this out Jfro. I'm about 2 minutes into it and I already had to come up for air. He calls the criticisms "vague general accusations" that don't have "any details," and are merely a way of "poisoning the well." What? 13 hours of Robert Ritner (Gee's own mentor) specifically disman...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 80
Views: 1544

Re: Fight The New Drug

OK, how about this. What if you came across some CGI videos of aliens or fantasy beings with non-human genitals performing bizarre sex acts? Would that be pornography? Why or why not? Not a trick question or an analogy or anything, just a thought experiment. Maybe it depends on how the individual re...
by Hagoth
Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics
Replies: 23
Views: 745

Re: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics

The former guerilla fighters have plans for taking back the Maxwell, by showing the Brethren that they are the faithful orthodox defenders, while those scholars are a bunch of anti-Mormon liberals. Their motto is "Mormon Kobra Kai shall crush the School Marms". I can't imagine how panicked the form...
by Hagoth
Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics
Replies: 23
Views: 745

Re: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics

This possibly? "My duty as a member of the Council of the Twelve is to protect what is most unique about the LDS Church, namely the authority of priesthood, testimony regarding the restoration of the gospel, and the divine mission of the Saviour. Everything may be sacrificed in order to maintain th...
by Hagoth
Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 80
Views: 1544

Re: Fight The New Drug

Let's just think what makes someone actually worth something. For example, does having a priesthood pronounced upon you by some guy down the street actually give you additional worth? Does having people call you a prophet give you more worth, even though you are unable to prophesy? Does being calle...
by Hagoth
Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Gong: “Please don’t post that photo…”
Replies: 49
Views: 1189

Re: Elder Gong: “Please don’t post that photo…”

NOTE TO THE COB: THIS ISSUE WILL NEVER EVER GO AWAY and IT WILL GET WORSE AND WORSE. And when they do finally deal with it, half of the membership will feel betrayed because they had been reinforced in believing that their bigotry was actually loyalty to their God & Prophet. The other half will fee...
by Hagoth
Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 80
Views: 1544

Re: Fight The New Drug

If you go to a big multi-national website like Porn Hub ( owned by Mind Geek, a company out of Montreal), and type in the search bar "teenager" or "young girls" or "unconscious teen rape" or any combination like that, hundreds of those videos exist. Yikes. Have you done that? I'll have to take your...
by Hagoth
Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sacrificed his son
Replies: 8
Views: 214

Re: Sacrificed his son

wtfluff wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:11 pm
Why does it seem like someone has to die in the vast majority of old seminary "movies?"
Conspiracy time: Old seminary movies were snuff films for the gratification of the secret inner circle who meet in the pizza restaurant underneath the temple.
by Hagoth
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 80
Views: 1544

Re: Fight The New Drug

seeing oneself as addicted to porn is far more damaging than actually using pornography. Wow. Somehow that never came up in those 5th Sunday combined lessons. "Damaged Goods Hypothesis." What a perfect name for it. At one point when I was an overly-scrupulous TBM I became convinced, based on church...
by Hagoth
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics
Replies: 23
Views: 745

Re: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics

blazerb wrote:
Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:59 am
They want to fight damaging information using any means necessary.
I believe there's a quote from Oaks to support this. He said something about how there must be a response, even if it's not a good one, just so no critical statement is left uncontested.
by Hagoth
Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics
Replies: 23
Views: 745

Re: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics

Gatorbait wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:42 pm
Did they fire Daniel Peterson? Is that old news? I don't check this very often.
Yeah, when FARMS became the Maxwell Institute. And they did it while he was out of the country, I believe by email. He didn't get fired from BYU.