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by Hagoth
Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:02 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Having non member friends over for dinner
Replies: 5
Views: 118

Re: Having non member friends over for dinner

"Gee, I never noticed those before. I guess they came with the house."
by Hagoth
Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why don't they teach this aspect of Celestial Marriage?
Replies: 11
Views: 187

Re: Why don't they teach this aspect of Celestial Marriage?

" Sealed by the Holy Spirit(Spook) of promise " means having your "calling and election made sure" which means you've received the Second Anointing. Only those lucky enough to get an "appointment" with a GA and get their tootsies washed are able to "commit any sin or transgression" and still have t...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why don't they teach this aspect of Celestial Marriage?
Replies: 11
Views: 187

Re: Why don't they teach this aspect of Celestial Marriage?

I recall Joseph fielding Smith trying to address this in an "Answers to Gospel Questions" probably in the fifties or sixties. He tried to say the passage didn't mean what it obviously said. Then he reaffirmed that sealed people could still go to the terrestrial or telestial kingdom if they didn't l...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why don't they teach this aspect of Celestial Marriage?
Replies: 11
Views: 187

Why don't they teach this aspect of Celestial Marriage?

D&C 132 is simultaneously the most (mis)quoted, and the most ignored piece of doctrine in all of Mormondom. Please read along with me and tell me if I'm misunderstanding this: D&C 132:26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the Holy Spiri...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Tales from the Heretic in HC
Replies: 18
Views: 281

Re: Tales from the Heretic in HC

alas wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:46 pm
I think younger folks are also less superstitious about things like wearing garments as some kind magic protection from injury as well as sin...
What, they don't know that no one has ever sinned or been injured while wearing garments?
by Hagoth
Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Progressive mormonism
Replies: 10
Views: 266

Re: Progressive mormonism

If only there was a way to maintain the fellowship of the ward/branch and sever it from the religion. I have wondered if I could return and be a progressive Mormon, but once you realize it's all made up, just like every other religion, you really start to notice the degree to which you are constantl...
by Hagoth
Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:59 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: My mom
Replies: 4
Views: 175

Re: My mom

Linked wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:53 am
On a personal note, I'm glad to see you posting again, I have always enjoyed your comments.
Me too!
by Hagoth
Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church supports marriage equality
Replies: 21
Views: 758

Re: Church supports marriage equality

I heard effusive praise for this bill, but then I heard that the Mormon church approved of it. If the Mormon church approves of a seemingly progressive thing, it's probably not as progressive as it looks. There's a great Mormon Stories podcast with a panel of lawyers who explain how it is a tiny st...
by Hagoth
Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Club-Q shooter was not an ACTIVE Mormon
Replies: 8
Views: 294

Re: Club-Q shooter was not an ACTIVE Mormon

The shooter's father, Aaron Brink, was interviewed by the Denver CBS news affiliate and said, "You know Mormons don't do gay, we don't do gay, there are no gays in the Mormon church. We don't do gay." He's pretty much just quoting Bednar. Besides being Mormon, Brink's most notable accomplishment is ...
by Hagoth
Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:42 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Marking Scriptures In Class
Replies: 9
Views: 183

Re: Marking Scriptures In Class

I would imagine they were all a group of friends hanging out. The two people holding hands were boyfriend and girlfriend and the boyfriend's guy friend was trying to pull him away and get him to hang out with the guys.... Love it! The awesome thing about this is that your interpretation was even mo...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Marking Scriptures In Class
Replies: 9
Views: 183

Re: Marking Scriptures In Class

If they're going to make primary kids do that, I hope they at least allow them to color in the coloring book part of their quad: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flifeafter.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F09%2FFacsimile-3.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=265171771938fb137e41cbae4ad34f...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Club-Q shooter was not an ACTIVE Mormon
Replies: 8
Views: 294

Club-Q shooter was not an ACTIVE Mormon

https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/lds-officials-condemn-nightclub-shooting-says-suspect-was-not-active-in-church The church is quick to point out that he has not been recently active. Apparently all of that bigoted indoctrination doesn't affect you if you're inactive, you have to reinvent it...
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:53 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Friend of the Family
Replies: 2
Views: 154

Re: Friend of the Family

Just This Guy wrote:
Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:14 am
Netflix has a documentary called "Abducted in Plain Sight" that is about the kidnappings.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81000864
That was pretty jaw-dropping. For me it really underscored how Mormonism can condition people to be manipulated.
by Hagoth
Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church supports marriage equality
Replies: 21
Views: 758

Re: Church supports marriage equality

It's about protecting church tax exemption even if they disallow gay marriage on their property or officiation. That sounds much more in line with how the church operates. It was the reason they got behind housing and employment equality, because there was a clause that specifically exempted them f...
by Hagoth
Thu Nov 17, 2022 2:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church supports marriage equality
Replies: 21
Views: 758

Re: Church supports marriage equality

...by the mid 2000's the church was using interracial couples in marketing and advertising to say 'see? Look how accepting we are'. While it was still being condemned in the Young Men's lesson manuals. This is what precipitated my resignation from the Young Men program in my ward. You can fiddle wi...
by Hagoth
Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:25 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church supports marriage equality
Replies: 21
Views: 758

Re: Church supports marriage equality

I'm not sure I really understand what it means for the church to back this legislation. For one thing, it's a federal political issue over which the Mormon church has no say and little influence. Secondly, why are they weighing in at all, since they have no intention of performing same-sex marriage ...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: You're only happy because Satan won
Replies: 13
Views: 373

Re: You're only happy because Satan won

RubinHighlander wrote:
Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:23 am
...there's no golden palace in an afterlife...
I's settle for golden arches.
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: You're only happy because Satan won
Replies: 13
Views: 373

Re: You're only happy because Satan won

If you are TBM and happy its because #blessed If you are TBM and unhappy its because #satan If you are apostate and happy its because #satanwon If you are apostate and unhappy its because you are no longer protected/blessed I agree that this is the proper TBMish assessment, but the logic is very le...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 14, 2022 7:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: You're only happy because Satan won
Replies: 13
Views: 373

You're only happy because Satan won

"You're only happy because Satan won." This seems to be the favorite new response by TBMS to people who leave the church and proclaim that they feel freer and happier now. It's been around for a while. The first time I remember seeing it was when Simon Southerton published a letter he received from ...
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:28 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 683
Views: 144838

Re: Keeping up with Trump

I hope the republican party will divide itself into continued losses, until it finally becomes productive. I like to believe that in some ways this has been what our country really needed. It pulled a Band-Aid off. Many of us were shocked to realize how much bigotry, paranoia, racism, and hatred ha...