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by Hagoth
Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"
Replies: 3
Views: 76

Re: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"

Hi JL! Welcome to NOM! Deconstructing Mormonism also deconstructs a huge swath of religion in general. When people come to the realization that religion and spirituality are not the same thing, and that no religion owns spirituality - that it is a free quality of life that we each own in our own deg...
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Ultra-quick summary of conference?
Replies: 5
Views: 136

Re: Ultra-quick summary of conference?

SincereInquirer wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:50 pm
Blah blah blah "covenant path" blah blah blah.
I have no doubt that is an entirely accurate accounting. Thank you SI.
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 04, 2022 10:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New revelation from Russel M. Nelson
Replies: 2
Views: 82

Re: New revelation from Russel M. Nelson

From this day forward Kirton and McConkie's primary purpose will be to protect, defend and promote healing for victims of sexual abuse, rather than protect and defend their abusers. Was this actually said? No. That's why I followed it with "psyche!" It's what everyone wishes could happen, but it co...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New revelation from Russel M. Nelson
Replies: 2
Views: 82

New revelation from Russel M. Nelson

From this day forward Kirton and McConkie's primary purpose will be to protect, defend and promote healing for victims of sexual abuse, rather than protect and defend their abusers.





Psyche!
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?
Replies: 11
Views: 329

Re: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?

deacon blues wrote:
Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:59 am
These candid observations by an apostle may shed some light on how things operate inside the inner circle.
Thank you so much, Deacon! These are priceless.
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: He (Jesus) who must not be named
Replies: 3
Views: 125

Re: He (Jesus) who must not be named

Valiant work, Lost! Three more things that would be interesting to track: 1-How many of the times Jesus is mentioned when they are talking about things like what Jesus would have us do, our relationship with Jesus, obeying words of Jesus, etc. when they are using Jesus as a symbol for themselves and...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?
Replies: 11
Views: 329

Re: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?

It seems to me that prophets have lead the church astray over and over again. The church reframes it as "speaking as a man," but those prophets often behaved as if, and even outright claimed, they were speaking for God. In the case of Brigham Young, he proclaimed that your eternals salvation was at ...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 10
Views: 307

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

I've always wondered...what if my personal revelation contradicts what the brethren are telling me? It shouldn't, right? So if it does, I must be doing it wrong or Satan is trying to deceive me. So...why even try? Just listen to the prophets and apostles since they won't lead you astray. Personal r...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?
Replies: 6
Views: 198

Re: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?

They look you straight in the eye and tell you that listening to the sociopathic ramblings of Oaks and Bednar is exactly the same as listening to Jesus Christ. Should it be accompanied by a hit of blotter acid? Well, that would either be hilariously ridiculous or cosmically terrifying. Either would...
by Hagoth
Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Ultra-quick summary of conference?
Replies: 5
Views: 136

Ultra-quick summary of conference?

I missed ALL of it except a few minutes of the lady who followed Holland Sunday morning (and from what I heard I liked what she was saying, except for the primary voice). Instead I went to Mormonpalooza, an alternative conference for fringe-sters. Excellent talk by Lindsay Hansen Park! Can someone p...
by Hagoth
Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: David Bednar
Replies: 3
Views: 258

Re: David Bednar

Now I'm really confused:
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by Hagoth
Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 21
Views: 367

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I have a lot of trauma from my mission as well. I came home early twice! First time for physical health problems. Once things had stabilized physically more or less with me, I didn't want to go back out and I wanted to go back to college. My mother said if I didn't go back out our family would need...
by Hagoth
Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?
Replies: 6
Views: 198

Hear Him? Really? He will be there?

See, this is what I'm always going on about. I'm sure many of you got this invitation in your email: Hear Him at General Conference One of the ways we can hear Jesus Christ’s voice is through His called prophets, apostles, and other Church leaders that speak at general conference. Think about questi...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Are there no GenCon rumor this time around?
Replies: 7
Views: 254

Re: Are there no GenCon rumor this time around?

I predict a record number of mentions of the "covenant path." Check this out, from a search I made at lds-general-conference.org: Number of uses of "covenant path" in conference talks: 1850s-1190s: zero 2000s: 3 2010s: 106 2020s: 91 (and were not even 3 years into the decade. Remind me to check back...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 306

Re: Where was the City of Enoch?

The intergalactic space criminal Brainiac was known to capture whole cities and place them in a bottle to add to his collection. He literally took them up into space after translating them with his shrink ray. Generations of captured inhabitants lived a miniaturized existence in these bottles in hi...
by Hagoth
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 10
Views: 307

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

If you want to really remain in your foul mood, have a quick gander at Nelson's latest word salad "The Everlasting Covenant" on the front page of the church's website. It's a doozy of fear and manipulation! Yeah, it's a steamy pile. I talk about some aspects of it here: https://newordermormon.net/v...
by Hagoth
Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: *The Dreaded Asterisk*
Replies: 7
Views: 276

Re: *The Dreaded Asterisk*

[*] Leaders will work to help "reform" the guilty by encouraging them to be in a position where they can choose not to abuse people, and the potential victims are not warned about this ahead of time. [*] They will tell leaders not to report abuse, even when it is required by local law. [*] They wil...
by Hagoth
Tue Sep 27, 2022 5:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 10
Views: 307

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

I don't know if it was because of this thread or the approach of General Conference, but I woke up very early this morning particularly pissed off at the leaders of the victory-for-Satan* church. I'm getting less and less tolerant of people who pretend to speak for God (either they know they really ...
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs
Replies: 8
Views: 201

Re: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs

deacon blues wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:39 am
Benson was not the president when he gave this this. In fact he privately reprimanded by the First Presidency for giving this talk.
And yet, they continue to quote it in conference talks, because, now more than ever, it really is the message they want/need people to believe and accept.
by Hagoth
Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?
Replies: 11
Views: 329

Re: The Q-15 has a safety net. How would it work in a crisis?

Several of the Q15 shared with their families they did not support it. But only with their families! No one stood up against it. The biggest hurdle they would have to overcome is that their entire existence revolves around the idea of honoring oaths that they have sworn to the church and to superio...