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by alas
Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

The over focus on porn is also part of patriarchy. You can tell because, gee, it was a men only lesson. Patriarchy pretends that women are too pure to have sexual thoughts or feelings. Women are just an empty vessel to incubate children. They have no sexual drive, they are not turned on themselves, ...
by alas
Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

So, guys, what did patriarchy teach you. Good lessons like protect women and children, and bad ones. Probably should be a new thread, but the mods can split it if they want. From the time I turned 12 I was taught that I possessed the greatest power in the universe ("more power in your little finger...
by alas
Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

I also find it fascinating how conversations can veer off in unexpected directions that take them miles from the original topic. I also confess to being one of the worst perpetrators of said veering. Eh ... I'm one of the biggest offenders at that. I know it really bugs some people, so I try not to...
by alas
Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:32 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 'Zina' Principle.
Replies: 6
Views: 1293

Re: The 'Zina' Principle.

The Zina principle is a fine example of Joseph Smith playing Calvin ball. If the rules don’t work for your benefit, change the rules. Legally you are allowed one wife. But change the rules and I can have more. Can’t have a woman is she is married to someone else. Change the rules. You must get your ...
by alas
Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:23 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
Replies: 37
Views: 2523

Re: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans

You talk about what communism wanted to do, then you switch over to how the horrible democrats want socialism. Learn the difference. Socialism is not communism. I am not one bit afraid of socialism. I have lived in a socialist country, and they had as many rights as we do, but they had medical care,...
by alas
Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:07 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: How social justice movements are like the LDS church
Replies: 6
Views: 2410

Re: How social justice movements are like the LDS church

In actuality, women benefited greatly from the feminist movement in the beginning, but like any train without brakes, they're crashing hard, they are hardly relevant anymore—especially since most feminists are afraid to define what a woman is! Feminism is great. But that movement has been replaced ...
by alas
Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
Replies: 11
Views: 875

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity

Yet I would not be truthful if I attributed my embrace of Christianity solely to the realisation that atheism is too weak and divisive a doctrine to fortify us against our menacing foes. People worried about "menacing foes" probably do need religion... or are unable to completely divorce themselves...
by alas
Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Primary Program 2023
Replies: 10
Views: 765

Re: Primary Program 2023

It's still the only LDS meeting that can hold my attention. My only memory of participating in the Primary program was standing there with a microphone in my hand and saying, "Teacher, I forgot my line!" Uproarious laughter from the congregation only magnified the terror. I know I've told y'all thi...
by alas
Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

So, it really is kind of a chicken and egg thing, but more complicated. TANGENT ALERT!!! I know a guy whose company does a lot of the painting in new temples, as well as paint touch-ups, Moroni re-goldleafing, etc. in older temples. He told me the Salt Lake temple's Creation Room mural once had a n...
by alas
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

I hope I don’t scare off Jeffret. I am only willing to get into this kind of discussion with someone I trust and respect how he thinks. But most people don’t take my arguing with them as the complement it really is. I don’t discuss things with stupid people—-boring. And I don’t discuss things with m...
by alas
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Belief is easy, doubt is hard.
Replies: 3
Views: 451

Re: Belief is easy, doubt is hard.

This is interesting. When you think about it, you know it is true. Just how hard was it for us to start questioning the church? How old were we before we dared buy a car that our father didn’t approve of that brand? Or as my sister said, “I knew I had finally grown up when I could buy the brand of t...
by alas
Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

Oh, that bit that sounds like the male rights people, yeah, I am being sarcastic. But that was close to what some male anthropologists did in declaring that there were matriarchal societies. They saw something close to egalitarian and declared it matriarchal, because they couldn’t believe all the po...
by alas
Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

All human cultures have been ruled by men. In human history we have never had one where the ruling power was held only by women. This is well outside my area of expertise or anything I've studied, but I have read that there have been matriarchal societies, or societies ruled by women. So, yeah, I d...
by alas
Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

So, no, men are not dominant because of patriarchy. We have patriarchy because men like to dominate. I remain unconvinced that patriarchal structures have no influence or that we can wholly exclude patriarchy from any causality. My observation is that some of these behaviors and desires are greater...
by alas
Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

Women don’t equate the control and domination of their partner with eroticism, so women don’t sexually abuse near as much, and when they do, it is usually motivated by different things. This is pretty clearly driven by patriarchy. Men pursue control and domination because the patriarchy tells them ...
by alas
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

Do straight women find gay sex erotic, in the way straight men find lesbian sex erotic, no, I have never heard the idea and in a few of my social work or psychology classes we actually discussed such issues, and the studies say no. There are a few differences in male sexuality compared to female. Wo...
by alas
Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 63
Views: 5846

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

Lesbians just ignored in a lot of this. Yeah, that's interesting. No preisthood, not such a big deal. Homophobes never have gotten as bent out of shape over lesbians. I think it has to do with the fear many men have of being “unmanly”. There is so much misogyny already in our culture, where it is i...
by alas
Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
Replies: 8
Views: 569

Re: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History

The Nauvoo Expositer incident is an example of the importance of examining all sides of the story. When I read Joseph Smith's History of the Church it said the Nauvoo Expositor was a "slanderous and libelous paper." That was considered an complete explanation in my 1970's Seminary and Ricks College...
by alas
Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:35 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Reality of Woke Ideology
Replies: 22
Views: 1506

Re: The Reality of Woke Ideology

Thank you, Angel. You refer to this as a war. You refer to a start. Specifically, you say "before the war started." With so much connection to the area, I am curious what day or moment you, your husband, your students, and friends would consider to be the start. Would the answers all be the same? O...
by alas
Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 138
Views: 21575

Re: Fight The New Drug

Maybe I am missing something or maybe something is getting lost in translation. But these recent posts by Bonfire make no sense to me. They don't even seam like something written by a TBM. It comes across more like AI generated nonsense than a coherent point about anything. Please correct me if I a...