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by alas
Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Righteous Corecion
Replies: 14
Views: 1523

Re: Righteous Corecion

I also wanted to note that by limiting honorable excuses to not serve to poor health or disability, that implies that all other reasons for not serving are dishonorable. While LDSinc. may say that health and disability are honorable reasons to not go, reality is a different matter. I know several p...
by alas
Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: JS Polygamy deniers?
Replies: 7
Views: 624

Re: JS Polygamy deniers?

And if Brigham concocted this complicated plot f getting all kinds of women to swear under oath that they married and had sex with Joseph, why oh why not make it more believable by having Joseph actually obey the rules set forth in D&C? But no, the “plot” is so full of unbelievable holes with actual...
by alas
Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:42 am
Forum: Support
Topic: More Second Class Saints....
Replies: 8
Views: 721

Re: More Second Class Saints....

I was reading the new Matt Harris book Second Class Saints, and it made me think about how the Church, and the concept of three heavens makes a segregated society. I'm reminded of Jesus's Parable of the Sowers, where all the workers are paid equally. the statement the last shall be first also comes...
by alas
Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Fall was Good?
Replies: 2
Views: 381

Re: The Fall was Good?

Lately the Algorithm God has been sending me videos of carnivores in the wild bringing down their prey. Often the prey is the newborn, or weakest member of the herd. Try watching some of these "death in nature" scenes- for example: a newly born fawn brought down by a pack of wolves. How can the Mor...
by alas
Wed Jun 19, 2024 11:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T
Replies: 12
Views: 739

Re: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T

Preach Hagoth. This perspective is difficult to come to from the inside though. It seems so positive, that God made it so we can be together! The assumption here is that families would be scattered apart by Satan or nature without God's kind plan. But it's God's plan, not Satan's, and it includes s...
by alas
Wed May 29, 2024 1:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Buckle up for AI "evidence"
Replies: 13
Views: 987

Re: Buckle up for AI "evidence"

It will be awhile before humans trust AI. And this distrust will be magnified by the far right, just like they try now to promote distrust of science. People generally distrust things they do not understand. And more and more people are being left behind because education is so expensive, and high s...
by alas
Sat May 18, 2024 11:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What happens to the Honest Mormon?
Replies: 7
Views: 907

Re: What happens to the Honest Mormon?

Haven’t you ever heard that steeples pointing up are phallic symbols? The higher the steeple, the better the reception on the priesthood antenna. You have a building with no steeple, you may as well give the priesthood to women. Very much having good steeples is part of our doctrine, more a part f o...
by alas
Thu May 02, 2024 11:01 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Evolution of God.
Replies: 4
Views: 869

Re: Evolution of God.

There you go again, trying to apply logic to religion.
by alas
Thu May 02, 2024 10:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Today was a hard day !
Replies: 20
Views: 1942

Re: Today was a hard day !

My husband at one point admitted that if he had been treated the way the church treated me over my father being a child molester, that he would have left the church. But when I finally reached that point, he still considered divorcing me. So, spouses can fully understand your reasons, and still feel...
by alas
Thu May 02, 2024 10:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Psychics & Ballards
Replies: 7
Views: 648

Re: Psychics & Ballards

My MIL was into some of the psychic stuff and saw no conflict with her Mormon beliefs. But she was also into NDE and seeing her dead relatives and other kinds of woo woo. And the more you know about Joseph Smith and the crazy stuff he was into, it is not so far fetched to understand Mormons into psy...
by alas
Thu May 02, 2024 10:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How to respond to believing spouse?
Replies: 28
Views: 2156

Re: How to respond to believing spouse?

I agree with the idea of “don’t make it about the church, make it about the child.” If your child was receiving a diploma from school and the tradition was that the father hand him the diploma, you would be happy to follow tradition, even if the school wasn’t your alma mater. If he was getting a dri...
by alas
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Today was a hard day !
Replies: 20
Views: 1942

Re: Today was a hard day !

I understand that. I did it for years. So, it really does help to remind yourself why you are doing it. You just keep in mind that you love her more than you hate the church. And make sure you do happy things with each other to keep you loving her more than you hate the church. But, as Pale Rider sa...
by alas
Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Today was a hard day !
Replies: 20
Views: 1942

Re: Today was a hard day !

I don’t get triggered as much when I do attend, which isn’t often. I think I would be more bothered if I was going all the time to keep a spouse happy. As it is, I was a church just before Christmas in our son’s ward, where his family was 3/4 the program. Special musical number with my granddaughter...
by alas
Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temples, temples everywhere...
Replies: 8
Views: 1724

Re: Temples, temples everywhere...

Attention future presidents: If you don't bring this mania to a screeching halt soon you will have a thousand temples waiting in the wings despite a membership that is actually shrinking. It's insanity. Just read recently that the church is too heavy on the money side and they need to use a bunch o...
by alas
Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 40
Views: 12242

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

I think the online protest to the crackdown are interesting. Some really good arguments against wearing them and lots of feelings about being forced. Some arguments I have seen, not in any specific order and not rated by how common: 1. So, the doctrine about what garments symbolize has been changed?...
by alas
Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 7971

Re: A New Theistic Argument

In as much as ye have done it unto the least of these… God is your ugly mean neighbor who drowns puppies and yells at kids to get off his lawn. Oops. Sorry you live next to Old Testament neighbor-god. :cry: Well, that was *not* how I meant it. But, yeah that would be Old Testament God. I meant it a...
by alas
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 7971

Re: A New Theistic Argument

... So, when we project onto God our own helplessness at stopping all that evil that atheists project onto God and say that therefore God does not exist…..maybe we are missing the point. Maybe God wants *us* to stop all that suffering, not just throw our hands up in the air and yell at God for not ...
by alas
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 7971

Re: A New Theistic Argument

An idea that's sometimes thrown around is that Lucifer rebelled not out of pride but because he sincerely believed that Heavenly Father's plan was flawed. That the types and degree of suffering baked in just weren't worth it and there must be a better way. I think he did honestly think there had to...
by alas
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 7971

Re: A New Theistic Argument

Something fun I read the other day about this theistic argument: If god is going to go to all trouble it takes to make it look like they don't exist, It's only polite to believe them. This just made my day. Just like when a very old person does not want to tell you their age, or a very fat person d...
by alas
Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The new throat-slitting
Replies: 8
Views: 1315

Re: The new throat-slitting

Also, any contract made under false pretenses, or under duress is void. And we were not informed ahead of time what the covenant was going to be, and holding a person’s marriage or mission over their head if they refuse is duress. So, even if we covenant to RustyAlmighty, the contract is null and vo...