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- Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:50 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Can girls pass the sacrament?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 247
Re: Can girls pass the sacrament?
There is also no doctrinal reason not to give women the priesthood. All the reasons “women can’t hold priesthood” basically go back to tradition. Even the Catholic reason makes women into a different species with nothing in common with men. Women can’t hold priesthood because Jesus was a man and the...
- Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:27 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: She seems close to the end sometimes
- Replies: 8
- Views: 282
Re: She seems close to the end sometimes
Sometimes those who almost turn the corner retrench. They fortify the “shelf” because they feel like it is under attack. This is why we NOMmies advise taking it slow yourself and allowing your spouse to find their own way out or to stay TBM and stay in. You just can’t lead them out until they decide...
- Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:40 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Temple attendance, temple recommend, temple, temple temple!
- Replies: 21
- Views: 837
Re: Temple attendance, temple recommend, temple, temple temple!
I decided several years ago when a niece or nephew (I don’t even remember which) that I wasn’t sitting outside waiting like an outcast. My husband went and I stayed home. I guess I won’t be in any family pictures, but I refuse to be treated like an unclean unworthy untouchable. Nope. I’ll stay home ...
- Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:44 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
- Replies: 21
- Views: 431
- Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:36 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Youth activities
- Replies: 11
- Views: 515
Re: Youth activities
This apologetic podcast mourns the demise of interesting youth programs. If you don't mind the apologetics, you can listen to TBM's lament the current programs of the Church and praise the good old days. "The Spiral Of Silence is Killing the Church (feat. Greg Matsen) MIDNIGHT MORMONS" I don’t thin...
- Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:47 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.
- Replies: 20
- Views: 719
Re: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.
Love to hear from you Bishop. Why do you suppose so many people are needy? (Not always financially) It seems like the church wants people to be self efficient, yet at the same time wants them to be completely dependent on the church. This is the successful result of the system. The church is design...
- Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:35 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Role of the Cantor
- Replies: 2
- Views: 111
Re: Role of the Cantor
Other things that could be restored: 1. the very old Jewish belief that the Godhead consisted of a Father, Mother, Son, and Daughter. 2. The very old Jewish belief that Heavenly Father was married to the Goddess of Wisdom. 3. The very very old pre-Jewish belief and worship of the Fertility Goddess. ...
- Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:25 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2011
Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
My money is on a big announcement to distract from the bad news also. They have done it before, some scandal or other and they make an announcement for people to talk about instead. Humanitarian aid to Ukraine would be a good one. I agree that trying to fix GSL is too local and besides, they probab...
- Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:17 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: New Order Spirituality
- Replies: 12
- Views: 358
- Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:46 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2011
Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
So what happens at conference time? Do you think the audit report will read the same as always? I guess funds were used and accounted for according to church policy. The policy was just illegal. Some have suggested that they skip the audit report altogether. Maybe they'll move it to the newsroom li...
- Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:33 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
- Replies: 21
- Views: 431
Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
The apostle Peter said Lot was righteous, and he should know, right? 2nd Peter 2:7 "and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless" :roll: I don’t expect Peter to know the science behind what point of drunkenness when a guy can’t get it up. Or mayb...
- Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:10 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Creator vs Natural Selection
- Replies: 15
- Views: 429
Re: Creator vs Natural Selection
I agree with SN, that cultures all seem to have religious belief and that it helps to organize people into civilization. But, once organized into civilization, can we stay organized and civilized?? Not too sure about that one. Seems to me that we also have a need to overthrow our oppressors every fe...
- Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:57 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
- Replies: 21
- Views: 431
Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
The apostle Peter said Lot was righteous, and he should know, right? 2nd Peter 2:7 "and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless" :roll: I don’t expect Peter to know the science behind what point of drunkenness when a guy can’t get it up. Or mayb...
- Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:48 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
- Replies: 21
- Views: 431
Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
I could be wrong, but I didn't think Lot was a prophet. And based on the Bible story I remember it was his daughters that got him drunk and seduced him. The apologetic I've heard for that one is that the daughters thought they were the only people left after Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed so wan...
- Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:10 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
- Replies: 21
- Views: 431
Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Balaam messed up by telling the Moabite king how to get the Israelites to sin. Saul messed up (in Biblical values) even after he was counted among the prophets. He didn't kill all the animals and consulted with the witch. David had sex with Bathsheba and killed Uriah. Did Hoseah mess up by marrying...
- Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:10 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
- Replies: 21
- Views: 431
Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Peter screwed up when he said he didn’t know or follow Jesus. Moses when he failed to respect Miriam’s inspiration. But that takes a bit of feminist thinking. Lot when he raped his daughters, then said they seduced him. If he is too drunk to recognize it is his daughters, he is too drunk to get it u...
- Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:54 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: New Order Spirituality
- Replies: 12
- Views: 358
Re: New Order Spirituality
I still believe in something, some power “out there” that can communicate with us, some intelligence. But I don’t pretend to be able to explain it. I have just experienced it, but I also don’t try to explain that. I was told stuff. I have been outside of my body. I can’t explain any more than that....
- Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:37 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: New Order Spirituality
- Replies: 12
- Views: 358
Re: New Order Spirituality
I still believe in something, some power “out there” that can communicate with us, some intelligence. But I don’t pretend to be able to explain it. I have just experienced it, but I also don’t try to explain that. I was told stuff. I have been outside of my body. I can’t explain any more than that. ...
- Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:12 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Sacrament Meetings & My Ramblings
- Replies: 7
- Views: 334
Re: Sacrament Meetings & My Ramblings
Black Mormon: Or speeches that are always referring to "Elder so and so said this or that and I quote..." I like to hear how someone joined the Church or how they solved some problem and I believe that these types of talks connect better with the members that had to wake up early, feed the kids, sh...
- Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:46 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Anyone want to discuss the changes to the temple?
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1311