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by alas
Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can girls pass the sacrament?
Replies: 11
Views: 247

Re: Can girls pass the sacrament?

There is also no doctrinal reason not to give women the priesthood. All the reasons “women can’t hold priesthood” basically go back to tradition. Even the Catholic reason makes women into a different species with nothing in common with men. Women can’t hold priesthood because Jesus was a man and the...
by alas
Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: She seems close to the end sometimes
Replies: 8
Views: 282

Re: She seems close to the end sometimes

Sometimes those who almost turn the corner retrench. They fortify the “shelf” because they feel like it is under attack. This is why we NOMmies advise taking it slow yourself and allowing your spouse to find their own way out or to stay TBM and stay in. You just can’t lead them out until they decide...
by alas
Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Temple attendance, temple recommend, temple, temple temple!
Replies: 21
Views: 837

Re: Temple attendance, temple recommend, temple, temple temple!

I decided several years ago when a niece or nephew (I don’t even remember which) that I wasn’t sitting outside waiting like an outcast. My husband went and I stayed home. I guess I won’t be in any family pictures, but I refuse to be treated like an unclean unworthy untouchable. Nope. I’ll stay home ...
by alas
Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Replies: 21
Views: 431

Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.

Cnsl1 wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:54 am
Clearly, Ammon was juiced. Call me a purist, but I don't think those juiced BofM guys should be in.
I don’t know. If Brigham’s view of the CK is correct and a guy has to keep a million or so wives pregnant, the guys will all have to be juiced.
by alas
Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Youth activities
Replies: 11
Views: 515

Re: Youth activities

This apologetic podcast mourns the demise of interesting youth programs. If you don't mind the apologetics, you can listen to TBM's lament the current programs of the Church and praise the good old days. "The Spiral Of Silence is Killing the Church (feat. Greg Matsen) MIDNIGHT MORMONS" I don’t thin...
by alas
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.
Replies: 20
Views: 719

Re: 22 Months Down. 38 To Go.

Love to hear from you Bishop. Why do you suppose so many people are needy? (Not always financially) It seems like the church wants people to be self efficient, yet at the same time wants them to be completely dependent on the church. This is the successful result of the system. The church is design...
by alas
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Role of the Cantor
Replies: 2
Views: 111

Re: Role of the Cantor

Other things that could be restored: 1. the very old Jewish belief that the Godhead consisted of a Father, Mother, Son, and Daughter. 2. The very old Jewish belief that Heavenly Father was married to the Goddess of Wisdom. 3. The very very old pre-Jewish belief and worship of the Fertility Goddess. ...
by alas
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
Replies: 63
Views: 2011

Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine

My money is on a big announcement to distract from the bad news also. They have done it before, some scandal or other and they make an announcement for people to talk about instead. Humanitarian aid to Ukraine would be a good one. I agree that trying to fix GSL is too local and besides, they probab...
by alas
Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Order Spirituality
Replies: 12
Views: 358

Re: New Order Spirituality

Hagoth wrote:
Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:15 am
Ha. We're effing with something that is ineffable, and that often results in things being effed up.
Yup. :lol: :lol: :lol:
by alas
Sat Mar 04, 2023 2:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
Replies: 63
Views: 2011

Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine

So what happens at conference time? Do you think the audit report will read the same as always? I guess funds were used and accounted for according to church policy. The policy was just illegal. Some have suggested that they skip the audit report altogether. Maybe they'll move it to the newsroom li...
by alas
Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Replies: 21
Views: 431

Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.

The apostle Peter said Lot was righteous, and he should know, right? 2nd Peter 2:7 "and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless" :roll: I don’t expect Peter to know the science behind what point of drunkenness when a guy can’t get it up. Or mayb...
by alas
Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:10 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Creator vs Natural Selection
Replies: 15
Views: 429

Re: Creator vs Natural Selection

I agree with SN, that cultures all seem to have religious belief and that it helps to organize people into civilization. But, once organized into civilization, can we stay organized and civilized?? Not too sure about that one. Seems to me that we also have a need to overthrow our oppressors every fe...
by alas
Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Replies: 21
Views: 431

Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.

The apostle Peter said Lot was righteous, and he should know, right? 2nd Peter 2:7 "and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless" :roll: I don’t expect Peter to know the science behind what point of drunkenness when a guy can’t get it up. Or mayb...
by alas
Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Replies: 21
Views: 431

Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.

I could be wrong, but I didn't think Lot was a prophet. And based on the Bible story I remember it was his daughters that got him drunk and seduced him. The apologetic I've heard for that one is that the daughters thought they were the only people left after Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed so wan...
by alas
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Replies: 21
Views: 431

Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.

Balaam messed up by telling the Moabite king how to get the Israelites to sin. Saul messed up (in Biblical values) even after he was counted among the prophets. He didn't kill all the animals and consulted with the witch. David had sex with Bathsheba and killed Uriah. Did Hoseah mess up by marrying...
by alas
Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: O.T. Prophets who messed up.
Replies: 21
Views: 431

Re: O.T. Prophets who messed up.

Peter screwed up when he said he didn’t know or follow Jesus. Moses when he failed to respect Miriam’s inspiration. But that takes a bit of feminist thinking. Lot when he raped his daughters, then said they seduced him. If he is too drunk to recognize it is his daughters, he is too drunk to get it u...
by alas
Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Order Spirituality
Replies: 12
Views: 358

Re: New Order Spirituality

I still believe in something, some power “out there” that can communicate with us, some intelligence. But I don’t pretend to be able to explain it. I have just experienced it, but I also don’t try to explain that. I was told stuff. I have been outside of my body. I can’t explain any more than that....
by alas
Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Order Spirituality
Replies: 12
Views: 358

Re: New Order Spirituality

I still believe in something, some power “out there” that can communicate with us, some intelligence. But I don’t pretend to be able to explain it. I have just experienced it, but I also don’t try to explain that. I was told stuff. I have been outside of my body. I can’t explain any more than that. ...
by alas
Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sacrament Meetings & My Ramblings
Replies: 7
Views: 334

Re: Sacrament Meetings & My Ramblings

Black Mormon: Or speeches that are always referring to "Elder so and so said this or that and I quote..." I like to hear how someone joined the Church or how they solved some problem and I believe that these types of talks connect better with the members that had to wake up early, feed the kids, sh...
by alas
Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Anyone want to discuss the changes to the temple?
Replies: 37
Views: 1311

Re: Anyone want to discuss the changes to the temple?

moksha wrote:
Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:51 pm
Do you think changing the nude clogging to later on Wednesday night was a good move?
Is nude clogging done barefoot? Asking for a friend.