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by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 12477

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Ahhhh.... So your girls were changing their pads WHILE men were in the same room with them but the girls were in a stall. Is that what you're saying? I think I've been pretty clear so far. Have you been reading what I have been saying? If you go back and read what I have been saying, I'm saying: 1....
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 12477

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Just sayin'..... https://www.christian.org.uk/news/girls-skip-school-rather-than-use-gender-neutral-toilets/ Saying what? In August we took a camping trip to South Carlsbad State Beach. All of the bathrooms were single toilet unisex with total privacy and locking door with door knob. A couple of my...
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Staying Positive While Being a Non-Believer
Replies: 10
Views: 1746

Re: Staying Positive While Being a Non-Believer

For me, ambivalence toward the church didn't really kick in until I found a hobby that included a social aspect to it. Now I actually look forward to Saturday morning the way the church teaches that you are supposed to look forward to Sunday, but I go work out with some friends in an Olympic Weightl...
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New TR question
Replies: 47
Views: 5959

Re: New TR question

How about the new question on keeping the Sabbath Day holy at home and at church. What does that mean to keep it holy at church? Would ordering a pizza to be delivered to the EQ meeting on Sunday afternoon and watching the football game on your phone be considered not keeping it holy at church? I t...
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 12477

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

I have this really weird notion that stalls could be their own private unisex bathroom and then people of all genders could come out into a larger common area and wash their own hands in the presence of people who may or may not be of their same gender. I know, I'm a weirdo.
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 12477

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

It would be added expense (it always is :roll: ) but maybe the best solution here is a dedicated gender neutral bathroom as a good compromise. Then men who want privacy can go to the designated mens' bathroom. Women can go to the womens'. And folks who could care less one way or the other can go to...
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:06 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Questions about YM changes
Replies: 14
Views: 2090

Re: Questions about YM changes

As much as I loved the church, being in leadership and having that comforting feeling that I was on the Lord's errand, there was always part of me that felt like a hamster on the wheel. My time as Bishop was awful, to be honest, with an abusive SP and a never-ending list of responsibilities that co...
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 12477

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

This was my thought as well. My teenage son was propositioned in a public restroom, which still freaks me out. Also, this is not a creepy thing (just exasperating), but I've had my share of little kids peeking at me under the stall. I haven't figured out why the American design is for stalls with p...
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 12477

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Not buying it and Alas we may just have to agree to disagree here. I always respect your opinions. But in this case I can't see myself repeating your arguments to explain to my eleven year old grand daughter why she is forced to share the public restroom with a 6' 2", 225 lb, male looking, hairy pe...
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Questions about YM changes
Replies: 14
Views: 2090

Re: Questions about YM changes

That was my very first thought. TSCC has no concern for it's local leaders and their time/family life. Right? I was never a bishop but I had my four kids really close together and was called as EQP right before the fourth one was born. That was just stupid! Life was too busy for me to do all that a...
by fetchface
Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Questions about YM changes
Replies: 14
Views: 2090

Re: Questions about YM changes

I know I shouldn't be mad, but I am. How dare they add more crap to the bishop's plate? Assholes.
by fetchface
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Vaporware Temples
Replies: 29
Views: 2958

Re: Vaporware Temples

Do the temples get charged property taxes based on building valuations? Seems the City of Orem would benefit greatly. It is my understanding that religious buildings are tax exempt, even property tax. I remember watching a documentary on the JWs and one comment they made was that NYC was salivating...
by fetchface
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New TR question
Replies: 47
Views: 5959

Re: New TR question

Bishop: Do you understand and obey the Word of Wisdom?

Me: I understand it, but I eat meat in the summertime and I don't put tobacco on my bruises. I do let my coffee cool down a bit before I drink it, so I'm good on the hot drinks thing! And I enjoy a cold one from time to time as prescribed...
by fetchface
Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A one-liner that captures your disaffection
Replies: 101
Views: 16213

Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

-If God is the author of Mormonism, then God is actively trying to weed out critical thinkers.

-Mormon God is training people for slavery, not Godhood.
by fetchface
Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: In Which Brian Hales Reassures Me Joseph Wasn't a Sexual Predator
Replies: 12
Views: 1621

Re: In Which Brian Hales Reassures Me Joseph Wasn't a Sexual Predator

What it all comes down to for me is this: if God commanded and approved of the way Joseph Smith practiced polygamy, God should be ashamed of himself. A God who approves of sexual predation does not deserve worship. Arguments like Hales makes disgust me. It is defense of sexual predation. Sexual pred...
by fetchface
Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: View of the Hebrews Book
Replies: 12
Views: 1442

Re: View of the Hebrews Book

Excellent point. I can imagine Joseph falling back on Ethan's Isaiah quoting when he had to buy some time after the loss of the 116 pages (116 pages might be a good name for a post-mormon rock band!). The Spaulding manuscript may enter the picture in a similar way, and is also trampled over by apol...
by fetchface
Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: View of the Hebrews Book
Replies: 12
Views: 1442

Re: View of the Hebrews Book

Yeah, I think he was aware of it, especially considering that Oliver Cowdery would have certainly have known Ethan Smith, having lived in the same small town, and that he was probably one of Smith's congregants. What I'm saying is that apologists jump immediately to plagiarism of VotH and easily de...
by fetchface
Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: View of the Hebrews Book
Replies: 12
Views: 1442

Re: View of the Hebrews Book

View of the Hebrews is often employed as a staw man by apologists. Critics say Joseph used it to write the BoM. Apologists say he didn't copy and paste anything from it. I think the best way to look at is that both Smiths were writing their version of the same story that everyone around them was ta...
by fetchface
Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: REVELATION TIME: President Nelson Announces Upcoming Important Message for Young People
Replies: 19
Views: 2904

Re: REVELATION TIME: President Nelson Announces Upcoming Important Message for Young People

fetchface wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:25 am
I didn't watch, but I'll take a guess. It was something like "stay on the covenant path." or boat or something. Stay in the church no matter what.
Looks like I was wrong. It was, "we are right even when we are wrong." See consiglieri's new thread.
by fetchface
Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: REVELATION TIME: President Nelson Announces Upcoming Important Message for Young People
Replies: 19
Views: 2904

Re: REVELATION TIME: President Nelson Announces Upcoming Important Message for Young People

Just This Guy wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:58 am
Any reports on what this was all about?
I didn't watch, but I'll take a guess. It was something like "stay on the covenant path." or boat or something. Stay in the church no matter what.