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by PalmSprings
Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:04 am
Forum: Support
Topic: That's Just Some Bishops
Replies: 23
Views: 8256

Re: That's Just Some Bishops

So, people end up having these horrible things happen, and they run to the Bishop who is supposed to fix it. And the bishop is like: "What am I supposed to do?" The members are like: "Well, you are the Bishop. Get revelation directly from GOD HIMSELF. GOD knows what to do, and since you are his mou...
by PalmSprings
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Photo Session with Jesus
Replies: 24
Views: 11733

Re: Photo Session with Jesus

document wrote:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:00 pm
Still not as creepy as Ben Carson's commissioned art work he has hanging in his bathroom.

Image
Give him an Afro and you have Disco Jesus! I can dig that haha!
by PalmSprings
Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #11 - WOW
Replies: 25
Views: 14316

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #11 - WOW

WOW as interpreted by each separate individual or church leader? Or the spirit of the law which is taking good care of your physical self? I would say yes to the latter.
by PalmSprings
Wed May 31, 2017 1:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Paris Temple much more influencial than Palace of Versailles
Replies: 15
Views: 9418

Re: Paris Temple much more influencial than Palace of Versailles

Good grief! How incredibly arrogant and condescending to a nation that, I assume, agreed to allow that building to be constructed. I hate to think of the cost of that site - i had no idea it was so close to that (genuine) landmark. What kind of crap is the phrase about a "worldwide impact" - what a...
by PalmSprings
Wed May 31, 2017 12:55 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #9 (Hypocrisy at its best)
Replies: 25
Views: 17612

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #9 (Hypocrisy at its best)

Give It Time wrote:
Thu May 25, 2017 5:13 am
As much as safety will permit.

So, this could possibly be a matter of safety.

Yes
I like this answer. In addition some things are personal and not for everyone to know. Discretion is the better part of valor.
by PalmSprings
Wed May 31, 2017 12:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #13 - Garments
Replies: 19
Views: 9852

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #13 - Garments

Each day, for the rest of May, please share your honest response to each temple recommend question, based on what you believe right now - 13 If you have previously received your temple endowment: -Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple? This is a mute point since what I believed to b...
by PalmSprings
Wed May 31, 2017 12:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15----------
Replies: 37
Views: 19376

Re: A different Q15----------

The Holy Ghost that Mormons believe in? Nope. I don't believe in a magical power that gives absurd answers and the ability to judge another mans heart. I would be a millionaire if I was to be compensated for the mental terror and anguish based on decisions that church leaders made because "the spiri...
by PalmSprings
Wed May 31, 2017 12:34 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A different Q15 --------- Question #14 (the only one focused on the past vs present)
Replies: 18
Views: 10115

Re: A different Q15 --------- Question #14 (the only one focused on the past vs present)

No, If god truly believes I should repent or confess he can talk to me in person. I don't need a self righteous power grabbing middleman (who only cares about numbers) telling me I need to kiss his rear and bend over backwards to get a TR.
by PalmSprings
Sat May 13, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Glad to see you
Replies: 9
Views: 6697

Re: Glad to see you

My shelf started to crack in 2011 after some shady church dealings with a distant family member and came crashing down in 2012 after much family strife over the situation. I can't go into much detail, but it was clear then that you can buy anything in this world with money, including eternal salvat...
by PalmSprings
Thu May 11, 2017 1:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: BYU Prof: People who leave Church deficient in "character"
Replies: 33
Views: 15663

Re: BYU Prof: People who leave Church deficient in "character"

I can't believe no one else has commented on this Deseret News article "Religion professors address 'why people are staying' in the LDS Church at BYU Women's Conference". Here's the link http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865679354/Religion-professors-address-why-people-are-staying-in-the-LDS-Churc...
by PalmSprings
Wed May 10, 2017 12:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What would make you change your mind?
Replies: 59
Views: 34952

Re: What would make you change your mind?

For me to even consider returning: 1. The church would have to publish a full page apology to me in the LA Times and USA Today. The apology would entail the gross misconduct of church leaders who had contact with me. And their names would be published. 2. In addition the church would have to pay me...
by PalmSprings
Tue May 09, 2017 12:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Other churches
Replies: 11
Views: 5823

Re: Other churches

....My advice is to know what you might want in a weekly service and investigate what kinds of churches offer that. Then you might have a good spiritual experience, if that's what you're looking for. This, whatever works best for you. Personally, I like the atmosphere of Catholic churches (especial...
by PalmSprings
Tue May 09, 2017 12:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I'm going in to be interviewed. Advice?
Replies: 27
Views: 12479

Re: I'm going in to be interviewed. Advice?

My tactic at first was just to say, I can't meet with you. If they responded back, my response was "Please refer to my 1st email, TY." Then on the 3rd try I said please call my secretary to set up an appointment at (gave them a number to a Chinese take out place.) After that it was delete, block and...
by PalmSprings
Mon May 08, 2017 12:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What would make you change your mind?
Replies: 59
Views: 34952

Re: What would make you change your mind?

For me to even consider returning: 1. The church would have to publish a full page apology to me in the LA Times and USA Today. The apology would entail the gross misconduct of church leaders who had contact with me. And their names would be published. 2. In addition the church would have to pay me ...
by PalmSprings
Sun May 07, 2017 4:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Curious "Word of Wisdom" Question
Replies: 20
Views: 10197

Re: Curious "Word of Wisdom" Question

When I was young there was such a strict interpretation of the WOW. Now I see Mormons drinking cold coffee all the time. Coffee ice cream. Coffee candy. Iced tea. But yea there do seem to be a lot of gaps.... Interesting. I know there are tons of mormons who always have drank coffee. But is this be...
by PalmSprings
Sun May 07, 2017 3:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Contradictory feelings
Replies: 9
Views: 4372

Re: Contradictory feelings

A big part of my move away from "TBM-ness" has been the realisation that I do not require anyone to tell me how to be a good person. That my life is better as I simply seek to live a life where I consider my impact on others and find small ways to improve the lives of others. Where I try to live a ...
by PalmSprings
Sat May 06, 2017 10:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Can you please answer this question?
Replies: 43
Views: 19046

Re: Can you please answer this question?

First off Welcome to NOM! For all intents and purposes I consider myself a former member, although not resigned. Now I'm Catholic with some Buddhist beliefs, same as my Fiancee. She knows about my crazy Mormon past but accepts me as who I am. And doesn't see me as a "priesthood daddy" that she is us...
by PalmSprings
Thu May 04, 2017 1:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why shouldn't I resign?
Replies: 20
Views: 14565

Re: Why shouldn't I resign?

Great question and one that most NOMs struggle with. Fascinating that there is a wide array of responses. It really comes down to what makes you feel at peace. My personal choice has been not to resign for a couple of reasons: 1. I don't see any great advantage from resigning. I'll still be on a lis...
by PalmSprings
Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:12 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Church Activity Poll
Replies: 24
Views: 13967

Re: Church Activity Poll

I've left the church indefinitely. Haven't bothered to take my name off the records because I didn't want to give anyone the satisfaction of trying to convince me otherwise. Although it may be fun to make up a story and get excommunicated for something I didn't do. Waste their time on a completely f...
by PalmSprings
Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:42 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Do people really get divorced over the church
Replies: 26
Views: 15805

Re: Do people really get divorced over the church

I wonder if families being ripped apart because of Mormon insanity, happens more often than is broadcasted. I know that there are people who are kind of hiding out (like many of us here) - and others have no idea that they are not TBMs. It happens all the time. The vast majority of church leaders a...