NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:54 am

I'm having trouble focusing. What is Soares' talk about? It's kinda random, like a Mormon themed word salad. What's the topic?
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:56 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:54 am
I'm having trouble focusing. What is Soares' talk about? It's kinda random, like a Mormon themed word salad. What's the topic?
He lost me like 2 seconds in. So bland so boring...
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:58 am

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by jfro18 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:00 am

Jeffret wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:28 am
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... sus-christ

Looks like a decent number of converts
Yeah overall slow and steady growth - about 1.5% overall.

I think at some point you can see the data on where the growth is coming from and of course would LOVE to see their active member data... but it's still chugging along albeit at a slow pace.

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:03 am

Gerard
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:07 am

If you're still awake after Soares and Gerard, you can claim it as a miracle during your ward's next fast and testimony meeting.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:12 am

I haven't heard a word he said. I'm dealing with some teen girl drama right now. This might take a minute.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by Mormorrisey » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:14 am

So we lack integrity if we post criticisms online? I've found what happens when you criticize them to their face. They don't like that either. Just heard that nugget passing through.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by Palerider » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:14 am

Thank goodness!!!

He's finally done.
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"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by asb » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:17 am

Gerard says that we must not let our zeal to keep the second great commandment cause us to forget the first. He is quoting a highly homophobic talk by Oaks from October 2019, as I recall. My question is since when is it acceptable for a church leader to instruct members to NOT follow a commandment, one from the mouth of Jesus, no less?

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:20 am

Eyring

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by jfro18 » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:21 am

MoPag wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:20 am
Eyring

He's talking from home
It's looking like the older leaders (Nelson, Oaks, Eyring) are unable to be there in person which is interesting... you could have a situation where they all go close together in the not too far off future.

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:21 am

They never understood that the two great commandments aren't at odds or rank one above another. They're one and the same. You can't obey one without obeying the other.

It's church leaders that have placed rules around proper and improper ways to love your neighbor. In doing so they're jeopardizing their ability to follow the first great commandment.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:21 am

He sounds like he's on auto-piolet.
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:22 am

Is Eyring at home? I thought I saw him at the conference in-person earlier. Maybe he's at conference but his talk is still prerecorded because he'd have difficulty being up at the podium?
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:24 am

-50 for shaming your stressed-out wife who doesn't know if her kids are alive or not. Damn.......
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by asb » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:25 am

I saw him there in the conference center as well, so it's pre-recorded. But he still declared that the session so far has been a wonderful spiritual experience for him.

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:26 am

Also not caring about where your kids are alive or dead because of the temple? WTF?
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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by MoPag » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:27 am

nibbler wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:22 am
Is Eyring at home? I thought I saw him at the conference in-person earlier. Maybe he's at conference but his talk is still prerecorded because he'd have difficulty being up at the podium?
I bet they had to film several takes. They just can't trust him to speak in public anymore.
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound

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Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Post by nibbler » Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:29 am

I thought he was trying to draw a comparison between Jesus on the sea of Galilee and himself. Both were asleep during a raging storm while other people were freaking out.
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