Re: NOMference Fall 2025 Sunday afternoon!!

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 12:58 pm

We've almost survived another one!!!!

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:01 pm

Stevenson conducting

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:07 pm

Pickles!!!

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:08 pm

His hair is extra shiny today!!!

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:15 pm

He's giving his old "agency doesn't mean agency " talk again. And giving Oaks a little kiss on the a$$.

DPRoberts · Post by **DPRoberts** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:22 pm

- 25 for the self judgment nonsense.

ETA: The premise of the self judgement model is that somehow, at the time of judgment what had previously been hidden behind mountains of contrary evidence will suddenly become irrefutable truth. Add to that the equally silly notion that those who followed the evidence and their own conscience will become magically aware that they choose the wrong epistemology and that feelings were the right way.

Sorry, Pickles, I'm not buying it. I don't believe in a judgement day, but if I did I think it far more likely that the feely folks will be the ones under judgment for failing to use the cognitive abilities the Goddess gave them.

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:22 pm

Cuvlier

græy · Post by **græy** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:23 pm

MoPag, you're a saint for creating these threads to help preserve our sanity.

DPRoberts · Post by **DPRoberts** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:26 pm

græy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:23 pm MoPag, you're a saint for creating these threads to help preserve our sanity.

Agreed. All hail Saint MoPag!

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:26 pm

græy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:23 pm MoPag, you're a saint for creating these threads to help preserve our sanity.

I'm happy to fulfill my NOM calling!!

Random · Post by **Random** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:29 pm

Isn't MoPag like our bishop and blessing-giver?

Sans the judge bit.

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:33 pm

Holland jr.

lostinmiddlemormonism · Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:34 pm

Jonah was NOT swallowed by a whale...sheesh...

Yes. Story. You can still find value in a story, but it doesn't mean it is factual.

I found value and education in the story of the little red hen, but I don't believe for a moment that there was an actual talking chicken that was baking bread.

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:40 pm

I think he's given GC talks before. Maybe he'll get a spot in the Q12?

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:44 pm

Godoy

Random · Post by **Random** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:44 pm

MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:40 pm I think he's given GC talks before. Maybe he'll get a spot in the Q12?

If he's actually related to Jeff Holland, I would count on it.

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:50 pm

I'm glad he's telling about that difficult circumstances they face in Africa.

lostinmiddlemormonism · Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:51 pm

Random wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:44 pm
MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:40 pm I think he's given GC talks before. Maybe he'll get a spot in the Q12?
If he's actually related to Jeff Holland, I would count on it.

Son, I believe

deacon blues · Post by **deacon blues** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:57 pm

Has any speaker mentioned Charlie Kirk specifically yet? I'm just wondering if they are leary of mentioning a different religious figure.

MoPag · Post by **MoPag** » Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:58 pm

Renlund