NOMference Spring, 2026!! & Sunday morning session

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Now he's telling a story that I'm sure isn't true... :roll:

Now he's calling for an end to bigotry. God damn.... He has no self-awareness.
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He's so full of sh!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -100,000,000
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Ugh... Gurl... sit down!!!!!

Oh, that was awful!
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Oaks' talk stirred up conflicting emotions for me.

On one hand, I feel like parts of his message should be repeated every single Sunday in church. On the other hand, parts of his talk felt hypocritical at worst or revealed an incredibly huge blind spot for the church at best.

Dealing with such a confusing set of emotions, all I could do was ask, "Oh, is that why you continue to support Trump?" after every sentence. I know this isn't The Coffee Shop but Christians' support of Trump doesn't make Trump look better, it makes Christianity look worse. The church isn't exempt from this phenomenon.

I'm sure his talk will be a focus of an EQ/RS meeting in coming weeks. Will it cause introspection? Will it effect actual change or is it just a talk to make us feel good while pointing the finger outward (like I'm doing :? )?

I got a tinge of don't press your religion onto others in his talk but it's hard to juxtapose that against what happened in Cody, WY and Fairview, TX. Prop 8, etc. It's hard to square, "don't be bigots" with the church's policy for trans people. I'm not sure whether his talk was saying, "don't be bigots" or, "here's why our bigoted beliefs don't make us bigots, so that's why people that call us bigots are wrong."

Like I said, it was conflicting.
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nibbler wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2026 12:37 pm Oaks' talk stirred up conflicting emotions for me.

On one hand, I feel like parts of his message should be repeated every single Sunday in church. On the other hand, parts of his talk felt hypocritical at worst or revealed an incredibly huge blind spot for the church at best.

Dealing with such a confusing set of emotions, all I could do was ask, "Oh, is that why you continue to support Trump?" after every sentence. I know this isn't The Coffee Shop but Christians' support of Trump doesn't make Trump look better, it makes Christianity look worse. The church isn't exempt from this phenomenon.

I'm sure his talk will be a focus of an EQ/RS meeting in coming weeks. Will it cause introspection? Will it effect actual change or is it just a talk to make us feel good while pointing the finger outward (like I'm doing :? )?

I got a tinge of don't press your religion onto others in his talk but it's hard to juxtapose that against what happened in Cody, WY and Fairview, TX. Prop 8, etc. It's hard to square, "don't be bigots" with the church's policy for trans people. I'm not sure whether his talk was saying, "don't be bigots" or, "here's why our bigoted beliefs don't make us bigots, so that's why people that call us bigots are wrong."

Like I said, it was conflicting.
Agreed

It's like, if ANYONE else had given that talk, it would have been a decent talk. But he's built his brand on homophobia and sexism.
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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