I dont have many words for this

[Emower]

This is an article someone on facebook posted. I thought I would post it here for everyone's enjoyment/outrage. If you aren't interested in being offended by the sheer audacity of orthodox Mormon thought don't read it.
Here is just one of the many gems:

Christianity itself hinges upon the question, “Was Joseph Smith really a prophet?”  

[20/20hind]

http://happiness-seekers.com/2017/01/02 ... mormonism/

I think this is the full blog post your talking about. And it's pretty stupid

[Korihor]

I read the article last night. It truly is a P.O.S.

Anyway, it is being eviscerated on Reddit ExMo.

Zelph on the Shelf has provided good responses.
http://zelphontheshelf.com/why-ex-mormo ... rch-alone/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC361OfvEN4

One of my TBM Fbook friends linked it, I civilly commented how offensive it is.

[Red Ryder]

Here is just one of the many gems:

Christianity itself hinges upon the question, “Was Joseph Smith really a prophet?”  

I would have to say Christianity itself hinges upon the question: Jesus? "Who's your daddy?"

[MoPag]

Here is just one of the many gems:

Christianity itself hinges upon the question, “Was Joseph Smith really a prophet?”  

I would have to say Christianity itself hinges upon the question: Jesus? "Who's your daddy?"

I can't believe I read that whole thing. I love how there are like 4 different places in the article where he asks you to like his Facebook page and share the article.

[Korihor]

I commented about this article on a TBM's post, here is my final statement.

"To the author of this article: if your other articles are similar in nature to this, I can understand why you have received so much hate mail. I wish you the best and to gain further light and knowledge."

I wonder how many TBM's that will offend?

[Emower]

Whoops, I meant to link the article and forgot. Thanks 20/20.

I commented about this article on a TBM's post, here is my final statement.

"To the author of this article: if your other articles are similar in nature to this, I can understand why you have received so much hate mail. I wish you the best and to gain further light and knowledge."

I wonder how many TBM's that will offend?

Nice.
Something that drives me up the wall is how people word things like this to acknowledge that if they get hate mail or if they offend people that means that they are right because, hey, the wicked take the truth to be hard right? No one stops to analyze if maybe they are being a giant Douchebag.

[Korihor]

Whoops, I meant to link the article and forgot. Thanks 20/20.

I commented about this article on a TBM's post, here is my final statement.

"To the author of this article: if your other articles are similar in nature to this, I can understand why you have received so much hate mail. I wish you the best and to gain further light and knowledge."

I wonder how many TBM's that will offend?

Nice.
Something that drives me up the wall is how people word things like this to acknowledge that if they get hate mail or if they offend people that means that they are right because, hey, the wicked take the truth to be hard right? No one stops to analyze if maybe they are being a giant Douchebag.

Hate mail martydom goes both ways, I view it as a net zero game. If you look at Reddit, Fearless Fixxer set up the mormon wikileaks website. He gotta lotta hate mail but we applaud him for it and laugh at the ridiculoucity (i made a new word )of it. So getting hate mail is simply confirmation bias regardless of your position.

[document]

Christianity has been a massive religion with countless movements and billions of adherents for two thousand years. Yet, it hinges entirely not on a man dying on the cross, but on a boy in upstate New York having a vision. Wait, what?

Side note:

And it is why a large poll of ex-Mormons found that only 1 in 10 ex-Mormons convert to another Christian religion.

I still question the polling data that shows that. I've read it before but I just don't see it. Step into a congregation of many churches and ask how many people were baptized Mormon at some point in your life. The results would shock this man. MOST people, I believe, don't leave the church the way that some of us have, through research, they leave it because they left it behind in their youth or their married outside of the faith. In my congregation, the only people who would consider themselves "ex-Mormon" are three people. But those who have "left the church", are by my count 17. They wouldn't respond to a poll looking for ex-Mormons, they don't think about Mormonism. I would probably put money down that all of them are probably still counted in the 15,000,000 members of Mormonism.

[document]

Oh, and before I forget. Thank you for the laugh. I really needed that!

[20/20hind]

He talks about archeological issues for the bible as well as the bom.

This position is idiotic. At least we can see city names match up in the bible as actual cities with cohberating evidence.

The bom has absolutely ZERO archeological evidence of Christianity or anything of the sort in meso America. Or any other area where it is supposed to have taken place. No item has been found to back up the circumstances or narrative of the book of mormon. No writing, objects, nothing....

Also the little problem of dna and the laminite.

[Hagoth]

And it is why a large poll of ex-Mormons found that only 1 in 10 ex-Mormons convert to another Christian religion.

People who make this statement need to remember that the core teaching of Mormonism is that all other churches are corrupt, or at best, incomplete and ineffectual. They hammer this into your brain from the time you can talk. If you ever believed in the Mormon restoration it was essential that you reject all other faiths. Then, when you lose your faith in the LDS church you're just adding one more false church to the list.

So, should it be such a big surprise that ex-momrons don't immediately run to one of those churches whose "creeds are an abomination," according to the God they were raised to believe in?

[moksha]

I could see Joseph Smith as being the driving force between the eventual conversion of Uranium 238 to Uranium 234, but not as the lynchpin of Christianity. Jesus has that honor.

If adherents want to give another accolade to Joseph, perhaps "Lord of the Isotopes" can be added to after the title of "Head of the Last Dispensation", but there is no need to go overboard by tying the fate of Christianity to the veracity of Joseph Smith.

[moksha]

Anyway, as a counterpart to Born Again Christians, we can be Banned Again Mormons.

[Brent]

Digital chlororform. Ywan....

[Corsair]

I have often worried that I live in an echo chamber where everyone around me agrees that this article is foolish. But I do have a Facebook friend that has been championing this article recently. It felt really weird to see his support for it. Refreshingly, he had a few commenters push back but this faithful Mormon stayed true to the themes of Greg Trimble.

[document]

I saw it shared for the first time today.

[Flaming Meaux]

A TBM friend of a friend linked the article on Facebook, and actually asked his "ex-Mormon friends" to pipe in with their responses.

A few ex-Mormons, myself included, made certain observations about how the article didn't actually advance a cogent argument, was likely only to be believable by those people who already accepted the author's perspective, etc. All in all, not a bad discussion was had for the limitations of a Facebook wall.

There were a few TBMs who piped in to even express their own disagreement with the approach and tone of the article, though some couldn't escape without saying at least one monumentally stupid thing.

My favorite is the 20ish year-old TBMs who show up and say, "Oh, I'd totally leave Mormonism, but I've searched the world over and I haven't found a truer faith than this one!" Yeah, I bet their sampling of non-Mormon thought and religion has been really expansive.

[2bizE]

Moralify predates and exists without religion. Not sure why people think the world would end without religion. I think it would do the opposite: bring people together.

[FiveFingerMnemonic]

Good, I was hoping I wasn't the only one with TBM relatives who liked or shared this article. I didn't have the energy to even make a rebuttal or post it here for commentary. I'm suffering from disaffection exhaustion. No effs given.