He is the president.River Morgan2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:25 pmTrump coup?? Oh, geez! Now I ve got a high blood pressure nose bleed!
He is in the office.
He won the election.
He is the president.River Morgan2 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 6:25 pmTrump coup?? Oh, geez! Now I ve got a high blood pressure nose bleed!
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Not at all. There are many people like you you have the genuine interest in the truth.
There are millions of possibilities, and I have pondered maybe a few hundred of them. Obviously, if this is anywhere near what I am claiming that it is, it is a massive conspiracy and effort to steal America. And that is at the very least.
I can't shake the opinion that his attempt to drain the swamp looks more like filling a cesspool. It's interesting that Republicans are starting to join the voices calling for impeachment. I think their sense of integrity and sincere concern for justice makes it difficult for them to watch a president foment terrorism against his own people and then just walk away unscathed. He has certainly wreaked havoc within the Republican party. They sound very empty now when they call for unity across isles unity in the midst of so much internal turmoil. Do you think there is a party schism brewing?SaidNobody wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:10 pm So right now, is Trump really as stupid as you think he is? Or is he as smart as I think he is? I am told this is all been a drama to let people expose themselves in a swamp water. But we could all be terribly wrong.
Like I said. The monster's exposing themselves in the water. Impeaching a president? For what? Taking out a president for anything short of a very serious crime is treason and betrayal to the concept of the president. Just impeaching a president because you can isn't what our founding fathers had in mind. They are not protecting our nation, they are covering in their ass.
The whole idea of replacing swamp water with raw sewage was very Trumpian, but the magic was getting his followers to inhale deeply and relish the scent.
More insults.
I would say that impeaching a president FOR serious crime and treason is exactly why it should be an option.SaidNobody wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:33 pm Taking out a president for anything short of a very serious crime is treason and betrayal to the concept of the president. Just impeaching a president because you can isn't what our founding fathers had in mind. They are not protecting our nation, they are covering in their ass.
Damn straight. It is treason and sedition. I don't think we hang people for that anymore but we shouldn't hand them a bouquet of roses and send them off to another round of golf either.
This is a perfectly acceptable place to stand. It remains to be seen how comfortable this position will be.Hagoth wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:35 amDamn straight. It is treason and sedition. I don't think we hang people for that anymore but we shouldn't hand them a bouquet of roses and send them off to another round of golf either.
My personal appraisal of facts vs. hearsay gives me no choice but to stand with the courts, the Justice Dept, the GOP election officials, and the SCOTUS. As far as I can tell the only candidate who was and is actively working to steal the election is Donald Trump.
Now that, is pretty brilliant/hilarious. Kudos to you, Hagoth!
Thank you, Mormorrisey, that is an excellent summary of what happened.Mormorrisey wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:51 am So it's cool if people want to believe that it was election fraud, but that's exactly what it is; a belief or faith. It's not fact. All of it can be explained. Trump winning most counties? Clearly Biden won all the major cities, so that fixes that. Surge of Biden votes early in the morning? All the swing states didn't allow mail in vote counting until in person votes were counted, and since Trump lambasted mail in voting, we know Biden supporters mailed their votes. Changes to elections in PA? It was the REPUBLICANS who made these changes in 2019. And on and on. So if Trump supporters want to believe in non-existent voter fraud, they can. But when Trump and his supporters can't prove it, and they lose in court, don't whine and moan that no one wants to know the truth. We know the truth, and it's not the Trumpian version of it.
I find this an interesting question, too, how much support Trump actually has. Or Biden for that matter. It's anecdotal evidence, to be sure, so take it with a grain of salt, but it jives with other things I've read and heard on the margins.Hagoth wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:18 pm Sure, 74 million voted for Trump but let's not be so quick to simply write off the 81 million of us who voted otherwise (plus a shout out to the Kanye voters!). It might start to dawn on them why we are so upset that a mob of MAGA people smashed up our capitol with the intent of stopping our votes from being counted, and with threats to hang our vice president and abduct and kill our elected leaders, Democrat and Republican alike.
BTW, that 74 million number does not remotely represent the number of people who continue to stand behind him if his approval rating is any indication.