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by Palerider
Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Will the parents PLEASE WAKE UP!
Replies: 4
Views: 250

Re: Will the parents PLEASE WAKE UP!

You're truly fighting an uphill battle here. But it can be won. Just thinking about the manipulative tools installed in the culture by Joseph Smith in the early evolution of the church is helpful. Probably the biggest is what we used to call "peer pressure" which now goes by the moniker of "group th...
by Palerider
Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kings, Messiahs, and Sex
Replies: 7
Views: 205

Re: Kings, Messiahs, and Sex

.....and if allowed to live long enough, even graduate to Messiah. It is only the last step that Joseph Smith missed, because probably he was murdered too early for it to occur. All the other steps were the same, more or less. Wasn't it one of those Skousen boys that had the "Messiah Ben Judah and ...
by Palerider
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I hate to even have to ask this question
Replies: 19
Views: 592

Re: I hate to even have to ask this question

......start screening and doing background checks on its BISHOPS and all ADULTS called to work with CHILDREN! Church leadership are totally blind on this "callings" stuff. Remember how Paul H. Dunn used to say in his conference talks crap like, "The general authorities are aware of you. We know who...
by Palerider
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Cosmological Conundrum
Replies: 15
Views: 266

Re: The Cosmological Conundrum

I know I've said this before but, man, I really wish we knew exactly what Jesus really said (well, an English translation of it anyway). What you say might make a big difference for a lot of people. I'd even like an accurate Old Testament translation as well. Just a tidbit from my studies. In the N...
by Palerider
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Moral relativism
Replies: 28
Views: 1076

Re: Moral relativism

deacon blues wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:59 pm
https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/201 ... ss-letter/

In case anyone else is interested. :D
Ah! Thank you deacon. I was just trying to figure that out. 8-)
by Palerider
Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Moral relativism
Replies: 28
Views: 1076

Re: Moral relativism

.....And if there actually is God, apparently none of this matters to it, so, there we go. Oh, I don't know..... Matt: 7: 15, 23 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves..... Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prop...
by Palerider
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Moral relativism
Replies: 28
Views: 1076

Re: Moral relativism

Accidental post...I'm too tired to be doing this right now. :|
by Palerider
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Moral relativism
Replies: 28
Views: 1076

Re: Moral relativism

"Some things that are true are not edifying or appropriate to communicate. Oaks is trying to equate serious flaws, even deceptions in the historical narrative to insignificant character idiosyncrasies that church leadership may have had. He is right in the sense that I shouldn't care whether Joseph...
by Palerider
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Moral relativism
Replies: 28
Views: 1076

Re: Moral relativism

Accidental post. :roll:
by Palerider
Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Replies: 23
Views: 668

Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters

A New Name wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:56 pm
I work for the DOD, and we get training every year on "Active Shooter". The rules they drum into us is Run, Hide, Fight, in that order.
The same should work in a church, mall, or office building.
I think this is excellent advise for all unarmed people.
by Palerider
Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Replies: 23
Views: 668

Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters

The point of my original post was never meant to be a debate on the merits of the 2A or guerilla warfare. It was meant to point out the blatant hypocrisy of the leaders of the church. You lowly members must rely on the Holy Spirit to protect you but the announced ones get men in suits with Glocks t...
by Palerider
Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Calling to Repentance
Replies: 10
Views: 349

Re: Calling to Repentance

But Nelson, Oaks, and the other apostles rarely talk to apostates. It's no fun talking to apostates. You have to hear things that you don't have answers for. You're actually held accountable for the illogical conundrums of LDS history, doctrine and policies. You're on the firing line instead of bei...
by Palerider
Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Replies: 23
Views: 668

Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters

Well, I’ll tell you what, here is something we can all agree on - if the Brethren were anything like what they claimed to be, they wouldn’t need armed bodyguards. Those invisible Striping Warriors from that urban legend with the sisters missionaries would be keeping them safer than any armed bodygu...
by Palerider
Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Replies: 23
Views: 668

Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters

I agree with you on a lot of things, Palerider, but on this there is a pretty wide valley of disagreement. I can think of no more ridiculous rationale for gun ownership in the U.S. than that the 2nd amendment allows us to protect the citizenship from a government that has tanks, bazookas, cruise mi...
by Palerider
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Replies: 23
Views: 668

Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters

We simply don’t have the desire for mass proliferation of guns, especially concealed. I guess this is a US issue, the rest of the world doesn’t give a shit. New Zealanders may not have the felt need for firearms because of the way they received their independence. It was practically handed to them ...
by Palerider
Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: I choose love, full stop.
Replies: 31
Views: 722

Re: I choose love, full stop.

I'm always glad to see someone do their best to love God and their neighbors as themselves. This post however makes me sad for people who are so psychologically stuck between a rock and a hard place created by a cult-like corporation that calls itself a church. If this person had been an adult durin...
by Palerider
Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Replies: 23
Views: 668

Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters

Only one national news network carried this story. I wondered why at the time. It was soon after the shootings in El Paso. Maybe it didn't fit the mass media's agenda. https://www.mystateline.com/news/national/potential-mass-killing-at-walmart-stopped-by-off-duty-firefighter-that-was-legally-carryin...
by Palerider
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Replies: 23
Views: 668

Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters

This is the same as all the political hacks and "ruling elite" in Washington. Those who have armed guards, gated communities and hyper secure homes are more than happy to restrict your right to defend yourself and family. Having a concealed carry permit, I wouldn't hesitate to carry against the wish...
by Palerider
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 1999

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Again, open cubicles are inadequate in many situations, and doors and walls that go from ceiling to floor solve the issues. Yes, it was a common area for hazing/bullying of kids when I was young. I'm sure that hasn't changed. People (of all ages and gender identities) deserve a place that is nomina...
by Palerider
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 1999

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Just sayin'..... https://www.christian.org.uk/news/girls-skip-school-rather-than-use-gender-neutral-toilets/ Saying what? In August we took a camping trip to South Carlsbad State Beach. All of the bathrooms were single toilet unisex with total privacy and locking door with door knob. A couple of my...