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by Palerider
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

wtfluff wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:13 am

What am I not seeing here?

Why am I such an idiot?
I can't help you here.


So I think I'm done.
by Palerider
Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:07 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

I've seen plenty of people of that political persuasion lumping all peaceful protestors in with the rioters and looters. And it would be wrong to do so. Lumping them all together is just wrong. However if one was in the midst of a peaceful protest and anarchists were in the mix, we would expect tho...
by Palerider
Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

wtfluff, you should probably not respond to this, bro. Palerider, I love your passion and your love of truth. I rather dislike this... my kids would call it flexing ... of your resignation. It's unlike you to do it. Reuben, I respectfully disagree. When Wtfluff calls my integrity into question as h...
by Palerider
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

To answer your last question please refer back to my original post on this thread since the answer is already there if you had read just a little more carefully. ;) Hey, you're right, there it is: I just wonder where Mitt's courage was when he could have called out his church leaders before 1978, w...
by Palerider
Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

Instead of doing something with real substance that might risk his church standing, he makes symbolic jestures that have no downside. His other option was to sit on his ass and scowl at protesters along with his Republican colleagues. Marching in a rally is a symbolic gesture by everyone who partic...
by Palerider
Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

References to these "numerous" call outs? Was Romney a one of these "lower tier leaders" in the church? Did you publicly "call out" the church for it's racism etc. before 1978? Romney has been a Stake President. Not sure of the date or what his current calling might be. But here's one such situatio...
by Palerider
Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

Hmm... Can you show me some evidence that Romney was against racial equality before he participated in the march? This question is a bit of a non-sequitur. But I'll try to answer it (again) anyway. Romney had many chances before and after the "revelation" on priesthood to stand up and say it was wr...
by Palerider
Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

I'm not sure what you're hinting at here, but my post was not really directed at Romney. Right, your post wasn't directed towards Romney but good logic has to run in all directions and I thought it applied well to Romney's case which is what the original thread here is about. See Hagoth's response....
by Palerider
Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

I think Romney knew better a long time ago but he chose to stay in the comfort of his culture rather than truly stand up for something when it counted and when it might have caused him some shaming from his religious superiors. I'm not sure what you're hinting at here, but my post was not really di...
by Palerider
Sun Jun 21, 2020 8:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 25
Replies: 15
Views: 414

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 25

Hagoth wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:51 am

What if you castrated young men and nailed their genitals to the wall because they were enticing to the young brides that God had promised to you, as in the case of Bishop Snow? What if the prophet of God voiced approval of your actions?
Yeesh...... hadn't heard of this one..... :|
by Palerider
Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

https://i2.wp.com/kathurley.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/knowbetter.jpg?w=500 I think Romney knew better a long time ago but he chose to stay in the comfort of his culture rather than truly stand up for something when it counted and when it might have caused him some shaming from his religious su...
by Palerider
Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:23 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What To Do About The Police
Replies: 24
Views: 647

Re: What To Do About The Police

Not that this wouldn't be an interesting topic but I was under the impression that talking politics on the NOM site was discouraged. I feel like we're getting drawn into an arena that could possibly concentrate more on our differences than our commonalities. And people seem to drift easily into disr...
by Palerider
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Frustrated/ambivalent about parent relationship
Replies: 16
Views: 661

Re: Frustrated/ambivalent about parent relationship

Acmeist, Your family, especially your dad, sounds like they are carrying a ton of disappointment and hurt feelings regarding your leaving the church. To talk to you is probably a painful thing. Better for them (they erroneously think) to just avoid what brings them pain...which is you. You might try...
by Palerider
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

1smartdodog wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:23 am
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by Palerider
Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:06 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on Romney and his March?
Replies: 49
Views: 1734

Re: Thoughts on Romney and his March?

Mitt's been around for a long time. I believe his father even marched with black leadership back in the 60's. Commendable. I just wonder where Mitt's courage was when he could have called out his church leaders before 1978, when they practiced blatant discrimination. Maybe just got in line like the ...
by Palerider
Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Bruce Porter Stuff Again
Replies: 22
Views: 664

Re: Bruce Porter Stuff Again

These guys are all just modern day gnostics that are the few and very special who know all the extra super-dooper secrets to the real salvation. Oh, to be in that rarified air. I'd be very curious to know what their contemporary non-lds colleagues would think of their interpretations. I'm so glad we...
by Palerider
Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Inspiration, revelation, and creativity.
Replies: 3
Views: 190

Re: Inspiration, revelation, and creativity.

I would never say that some creativity isn't spiritually inspired from time to time. But my general experience has been that the more educated a person is in a given field the more prepared they are (if they have an open mind) to "see" things in a different way. Too much dogmatism, whether in the ar...
by Palerider
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Another shot at church lawsuit
Replies: 8
Views: 437

Another shot at church lawsuit

Will be interesting to see how this goes. One can only hope. :|

https://legalnewsline.com/stories/53865 ... ing-church
by Palerider
Sun May 31, 2020 9:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 22
Replies: 11
Views: 452

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 22

I'd like to see the Nephite who could catch a Bighorn lamb. :roll:

Especially in the areas where they live.