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by Palerider
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The changing face of LDS INC under RMN...why the rush?
Replies: 53
Views: 1705

Re: The changing face of LDS INC under RMN...why the rush?

That simple suggestion is not intended to be pharisaic or formalistic. And yet that's exactly what happened. If he had not hoped that would be the case there would have been no reason for him to make the subtle commandment, knowing as he does the flock mentality of the listeners. Yep. It becomes a ...
by Palerider
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
Replies: 86
Views: 2769

Re: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?

. This thoughtful comment really gives me some things to think about. My understanding is that the early Christians went to the temple in Jerusalem until they were kicked out or it was destroyed. And I really think that there was no revelation from God that said to build many temples during pioneer...
by Palerider
Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New RFM Podcast on Temple Changes
Replies: 4
Views: 220

Re: New RFM Podcast on Temple Changes

Just listened to this and thought it was very informative and correct. To Consiglieri: A few notes on the temple change statement that you guys reviewed: "Whenever the Lord has had a people on the earth who will obey His word, they have been commanded to build temples. Scriptures document patterns o...
by Palerider
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy and later sexual repression
Replies: 127
Views: 3511

Re: Polygamy and later sexual repression

With as many wives as Brigham Young had I have some questions. 1) Did he or his wives ever get sexually transmitted diseases? 2) If you had sex every night with a different woman would your penis get raw or painful? I really don’t want to contemplate either of your questions. I can understand that....
by Palerider
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The case of the diminished, qualified prophecy
Replies: 3
Views: 217

Re: The case of the diminished, qualified prophecy

Odd that the Savior/Joseph would use the term "see the face of the Son of Man". According to the history, Joseph saw the Lord's face numerous times.

Maybe he forgot....?

But I'm just nitpicking. 8-)
by Palerider
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dan Vogel on Mormon Stories right now... really fascinating stuff
Replies: 5
Views: 415

Re: Dan Vogel on Mormon Stories right now... really fascinating stuff

I still have to laugh at the FARMS review and calling Dan a modern day Korihor. Mormon religion professor and FARMS scholar Stephen E. Robinson suggested that Vogel's arguments closely resemble those of Korihor, an atheist polemicist in the Book of Mormon. Now there's some circular reasoning....usi...
by Palerider
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Would you let your kids be chipped?
Replies: 11
Views: 215

Re: Would you let your kids be chipped?

My kids are all grown.

The only reason I would agree with having my grandkids chipped would be for locating purposes in case they were kidnapped.

In principle, I have to go with the free agency folks. Better to have the agency even with the inherent mistakes that will come.
by Palerider
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Apostasy through the ages.
Replies: 13
Views: 419

Re: Apostasy through the ages.

wtFluff, That could been said of Mormonism, and also Inerrant-Bible Christianity. I do believe an argument could be made that Primitive Christianity might not be 100% the way the bible portrays it. Let's say the New Testament got from 60% to 95% of it's story right. One could still maintain that th...
by Palerider
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is there a new word yet?
Replies: 16
Views: 528

Re: Is there a new word yet?

I really think Russy ought to take a hint from the Biblical scriptures: Acts 11:26 "And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch." There are also references to the members as "saint...
by Palerider
Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 7% decrease in Mexico's congregations
Replies: 20
Views: 578

Re: 7% decrease in Mexico's congregations

Armed security guards appear from nowhere and pull fully automatic weapons from their specially designed garments, one of which snags on his trigger and trips a five round burst that sends the entire congregation, who to this point have been awestruck with gaping mouths....into pandemonium. Special...
by Palerider
Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 7% decrease in Mexico's congregations
Replies: 20
Views: 578

Re: 7% decrease in Mexico's congregations

Reuben wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:49 pm
Palerider, you disturb me.

You're channeling Red Ryder, and he's not even dead yet.
Hey....we try to keep the gratuitous stuff at bay.... ;)
by Palerider
Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Apostasy through the ages.
Replies: 13
Views: 419

Re: Apostasy through the ages.

Apologetic answer: There's plenty of evidence, you're just too stupid to recognize it. You need BYU educated Phds to hold your hand. Just because we haven't found it, doesn't mean it isn't there. Just give it another few thousand years and it will turn up. In the meantime, keep paying your tithing.
by Palerider
Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is there a new word yet?
Replies: 16
Views: 528

Re: Is there a new word yet?

I had a dream the other night. I dreamt of all the Mormon temples in the world. They grew legs and traveled to Jerusalem where the Great Temple had been built and they all bowed themselves down before it and were ashamed for their pretense. A voice from the Great Temple asked, "Where are your build...
by Palerider
Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 7% decrease in Mexico's congregations
Replies: 20
Views: 578

Re: 7% decrease in Mexico's congregations

I'm betting Uchtdorf chucks his prepared speech next conference, goes off script and announces that he is withdrawing from the council of the twelve because of incontrovertible problems with church foundational stories. Satellite feed is cut to the rest of the world but not before Elder Holland is s...
by Palerider
Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is there a new word yet?
Replies: 16
Views: 528

Re: Is there a new word yet?

I think God is fine with it being called the Mormon church because that is exactly what it is. He probably prefers it. I had a dream the other night. I dreamt of all the Mormon temples in the world. They grew legs and traveled to Jerusalem where the Great Temple had been built and they all bowed the...
by Palerider
Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Faith Crisis quiz
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Faith Crisis quiz

In the interest of honest disclosure to TBMs, this mentions a study by the church, but the study/report referenced was not conducted or published or approved by the church. It was conducted by NOMs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Did I misunderstand that aspect? The Faith Crisis report was not ...
by Palerider
Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Faith Crisis quiz
Replies: 24
Views: 630

Re: Faith Crisis quiz

92%

Figured I'd do better..... :roll:
by Palerider
Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The exodus from doctrine. An appeal for enjoyment.
Replies: 6
Views: 303

Re: The exodus from doctrine. An appeal for enjoyment.

Come here how Pale, cRusty knows how to live it up! https://edge.ldscdn.org/mobile/images/2072870/e2f2f0ee5b1044e5ab4b50af23e11094/460x296.jpg Oh, this is precious. Was this taken soon after he took the sacrament? ;) You know in the old days, Brigham and the rest of the boys were using wine for the...
by Palerider
Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is there any reasonable/plausible evidence for reformed Egyptian?
Replies: 5
Views: 200

Re: Is there any reasonable/plausible evidence for reformed Egyptian?

Without delving into it more deeply, "demotic Egyptian" seems to be the only thing that comes close to answering a description of "reformed Egyptian". It (reformed Egyptian) is just so low on my plausiblity scale that I just don't think it's even worth studying for purposes of refutation. Here is wh...