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by Palerider
Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Studying Antiquity
Replies: 15
Views: 547

Re: Studying Antiquity

Good stuff here and I don't mean to jack it with a stupid story, but I'm embarrassed to say that I once believed that the earth was no more than maybe 8 or 9 thousand years old. I even spouted that piece of wacked wisdom in a memorable conversation about 30 years ago to a co-worker I was ever so sl...
by Palerider
Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Studying Antiquity
Replies: 15
Views: 547

Re: Studying Antiquity

There actually is some truth to the idea that human memory has gone down over the generations. Maybe not actually going down, but due to the need for memory to be good for much of human history, various techniques have developed throughout history to make the most of human memory. Things like poetr...
by Palerider
Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:08 am
Forum: Support
Topic: MLM to Apostle
Replies: 2
Views: 201

Re: MLM to Apostle

I'm sure if McConkie were alive to defend himself he would have a perfectly good explanation for this issue that would show his part to have been one of complete innocence and that he himself was a victim of the fiasco.

His great uncle Joe was equally as good at spin.
by Palerider
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Studying Antiquity
Replies: 15
Views: 547

Re: Studying Antiquity

Apparently LDS recognized the shakiness of Genesis genealogies. Just wanted to mention something I learned awhile back regarding the ancient genealogies and how they possibly were kept. As we know, most of the Biblical stories were passed down by rote memory long before they were committed to lambs...
by Palerider
Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is Christianity Dying?
Replies: 18
Views: 525

Re: Is Christianity Dying?

It seems to be a question that even the Savior contemplated.

Luke 18:8
"....Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”

I see turbulence ahead. It should be interesting.
by Palerider
Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Jana Riess nails the reason my full tithe isn't to LDS
Replies: 8
Views: 591

Re: Jana Riess nails the reason my full tithe isn't to LDS

When we left the church, Mrs. Palerider and I set up a scholarship fund at our local town college that specifically targets young impoverished single mothers (or fathers) who have little children at home and are trying to further their education and need assistance. The school keeps us updated as to...
by Palerider
Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
Replies: 10
Views: 365

Re: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?

For a very brief time the Partridge sisters were married and living with Joseph after their second 'sham' wedding that Emma approved of. But he married a lot of women who lived with him although I'm not sure if they were still living with him at that point or not. By the statement "living with him"...
by Palerider
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
Replies: 10
Views: 365

Re: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?

I may be misinformed but I thought Emma was the only wife that actually lived with Joseph. I know he had two orphaned sisters that he and Emma cared for for awhile and he ended up marrying one or both but I didn't think they stayed in the Smith home much after that. I probably need to brush up on th...
by Palerider
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Puberty's natural action - masturbating
Replies: 18
Views: 760

Re: Puberty's natural action - masturbating

When my son made the quiet comment one time that he really didn't want to go do baptisms for the dead with his friends, I realized that something might be going on. I took him aside and asked what was going on and he indicated that he had had a problem with exciting himself. Remembering how difficul...
by Palerider
Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48
Replies: 6
Views: 260

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48

"...so please don’t think I’m trying to say that Mormons in general try to shame rape victims or purposely think less of them." Mormons in general, no, but not necessarily their beloved leaders. David O. McKay said, “Your virtue is worth more than your life . . . preserve your virtue even if you lo...
by Palerider
Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The big lie
Replies: 22
Views: 770

Re: The big lie

hmb wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:14 am


WHAT? Santa is a lie???
:D

Albeit a white lie.
by Palerider
Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Preference Falsification
Replies: 12
Views: 445

Re: Preference Falsification

As I recall, Joseph Smith ingrained this tactic in Mormon culture by threatening the women he approached with the destruction of their reputation if they should refuse his advances and not remain silent about it.

A fine tool every honest prophet of God should keep at his disposal. :oops:
by Palerider
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The big lie
Replies: 22
Views: 770

Re: The big lie

Holland would say that it is true that God can cure all problems, but that doesn't mean that he will cure all problems. My point exactly. This is what he SHOULD have said but he didn't. Church membership and it's so-called priesthood doesn't cure alcoholism, drug addiction, cancer, pedophilia, spou...
by Palerider
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The big lie
Replies: 22
Views: 770

The big lie

So I read this excerpt from a talk by Elder Holland. He's going on about how much he is giving for the church and that members should be like him. Willing to give their lives for the church and believing in the Savior. All good and well except for coming across as a bit of a braggart. But then he th...
by Palerider
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have a NHM explainer handy by chance?
Replies: 21
Views: 956

Re: Does anyone have a NHM explainer handy by chance?

1smartdodog wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:15 pm
I use to shoot archery in competition. One arrow out of six in the bullseye did not get me anything. To win they all had to hit the bullseye. Anything kess was failure.


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Great analogy. 😎👍
by Palerider
Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Tithing slips in the mail? Is this normal?
Replies: 5
Views: 335

Re: Tithing slips in the mail? Is this normal?

This sounds like some thoughtless ignoramus in the Bishopric (or clerk following orders) trying to give ward members an easier way to get their blessings by paying their tithing. How considerate. :roll:

And yes, I'm pretty sure it's a federal offense to use a mailbox for other than official uses.
by Palerider
Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Expect No Good Apologies
Replies: 8
Views: 537

Re: Expect No Good Apologies

Unfortunately, DW has taken this practice to heart and refuses to apologize for anything in life ever. She has even quoted Oaks' "the church does not seek or give apologies" statement when we talked about it once. Doesn't she realize that the church is a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of organizat...
by Palerider
Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Letters to the Slackers
Replies: 17
Views: 1015

Re: Letters to the Slackers

Yep....this is the "We're going to aggravate you into full activity" method Mormons use to offload their guilt about missionary work. It reminds me of the pre-pandemic time our ward decided they were going to contact EVERY member on the ward roster. Even the ones who had requested "no contact" just ...
by Palerider
Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does Russell Nelson have the guts?
Replies: 18
Views: 832

Re: Does Russell Nelson have the guts?

And therefore may not be concerned about political turmoil because he would consider it a sign that the end is getting near. If fact, the worse things get the more validated 2nd Coming watchers feel in their end times expectations. Unless it effected the markets to a point where his $140 billion va...
by Palerider
Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does Russell Nelson have the guts?
Replies: 18
Views: 832

Re: Does Russell Nelson have the guts?

As much as Nelson has mentioned the 2nd Coming and the gathering of Israel lately I would have to say that he buys into much of what the right uses to keep themselves believing. He won't offend them because he's actually with them, except for a few stray cows who want to usurp his power. Whoever mad...